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loosebits:
Roll off/on is where your valves come in contact with the ceiling (cave, wreck, whatever). The left post will want to turn off (roll off), the right post will want to turn on (roll on).

As far as breathing from the LP inflator, it's a skill that takes practice but the idea is that you press the inflate button and the dump button at the same time. If practicing it, I would make sure my wing was recently sterilized as some very nasty little critters may be living in there.

Thanks, i thought that's what you meant but I wanted to make sure...


Daniel, I realize these are very basic questions, and I intend to take tech classes... but i am just looking ahead to buying equipment. Hopefully I will start tech classes later this summer.
 
Ah, if he just wants to dive doubles to be diving doubles, no need to sign up for a class. I also think a class is the last place to be learning to dive a new rig. It may take 10 or more dives for some people to get comfortable in doubles (or 10 mins depending on the person). I wouldn't want to combine that with deco bottles or stages.

Daniel, I am honestly curious. What are some of the other configurations used you alluded to (and why)? I'm a cave diver and that's all I've ever been exposed to (I've seen the stuffed long hose but that's about it).
 
loosebits:
Ah, if he just wants to dive doubles to be diving doubles, no need to sign up for a class. I also think a class is the last place to be learning to dive a new rig. It may take 10 or more dives for some people to get comfortable in doubles (or 10 mins depending on the person). I wouldn't want to combine that with deco bottles or stages.

Daniel, I am honestly curious. What are some of the other configurations used you alluded to (and why)? I'm a cave diver and that's all I've ever been exposed to (I've seen the stuffed long hose but that's about it).


That's really what I'm asking for. I'm wanting to get a "rig" set up and get used to it before i start tech classes. I'm sure i'll have enough concepts and skills to worry about in class without buoyancy issues being one of them.
 
DawgDiver, call Charles Sellers at Undersea Adventures in Atlanta, http://www.underseaadventures.com/ - he is a Technical Workshop director and the Cave Course director for NAUI, he'll talk your ear off for free.

So much depends on the type of diving that you want to do...

Rand, I too am a cave diver, since 1983. Rig configuration for cave differs from wreck which differs from deep water diving... Call over to Surface Interval in Arlington, talk to Garret Toomey, he's their tech man, http://www.surfaceintervalscuba.com/staff/Toomey/Garret Toomey.htm.

In any case, one shouldn't just figure out doubles for one's self...
 
Ok, one more boring question for you guys and i'll leave you alone.... is using DIN regs pretty much required for tech, or do some use yoke style?
 
Dawg, if you're looking for basic information in understanding gear configs before investing in gear, I'd recommend you order Dan MacKay's "Dress for Success":

https://secure.gue.com/catalog/order

There's some great info in there. You might also want to pick up a copy of "Doing it Right: The Fundamentals of Better Diving". Regardless if whether you want to intend to go DIR, this will help you better understand what DIR really is so you can make informed decisions.
 
daniel f aleman:
Rand, I too am a cave diver, since 1983. Rig configuration for cave differs from wreck which differs from deep water diving... Call over to Surface Interval in Arlington, talk to Garret Toomey, he's their tech man, http://www.surfaceintervalscuba.com/staff/Toomey/Garret%20Toomey.htm.

In any case, one shouldn't just figure out doubles for one's self...
Daniel, I think you misunderstood my reference to being a cave diver. I wasn't trying to get into a pissing contest with you. Obviously you have far more experience than I do. I was stating how limited my background is.. I am only a cave diver and so the typical cave diving hose routing is the only one I've been exposed to.

DIR, as I understand it, would use the hose configuration I described for all types of diving hence the "many divers.." qualifier in my original post.

Can you explain some of the other configurations? I am truly curious (but not curious enough to call SIS; they don't like me over there).

As far as learning doubles on your own, I strongly disagree with you. While the ideal situation would be to have the help of a mentor, learning on one's own in the safety of a pool or familiar quarry I feel would be far preferable to learning during an advanced class such as decompression procedures or basic cave. Not only are you in unfamiliar environments during these classes but any time the instructor has to take out to help you with basic diving issues is time that is likely to be sacrificed from covering other material for which the class is designed. Now if they had a "doubles" class, I would rethink this but as it stands now it seems that waiting to learn doubles in basic cave would be the worst case scenario.

Finally, I understand that you are a very outspoken DIR-critic. I could be wrong there, perhaps I'm confusing you with someone else. Personally I'm not DIR at all but I use a lot of their techniques. I think the reason why is evident in this thread. DIR makes information publically available for all. Notice all the links to configurations on this page are DIR/GUE sites? Sharing of information, not requiring one take some class or join some group, is almost always beneficial.

Dawg: AFAIK, DIN is always preferable. I personally don't see any advantage to 300 bar over 200 bar DIN (despite the names, it has nothing to do with rated pressure) and 300 bar DIN means it takes longer to screw in your regs.
 
This is such interesting reading.....OP-- hope you can dig out the positive answers to your orginal question. You might really consider a visit to your local scuba instr. and get some one on one about your questions. ;)
 
texdiveguy:
This is such interesting reading.....OP-- hope you can dig out the positive answers to your orginal question. You might really consider a visit to your local scuba instr. and get some one on one about your questions. ;)


I will for sure talk to the tech instructor at the lds, wasn't going to base ALL my info from the board, although it sure helps alot!

Thanks for the replies everybody.
 

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