Ranger LTD - 65lb bladder

[aaronp]

When I purchased my Ranger LTD in the fall of last year, I wanted it with a 65lb bladder. I was told that Zeagle was not currently making the 65lb bladder for the LTD, but they would be soon, and they'd let me know.
Are they now making the 65lb bladder, and if not, when do you think it might be available?

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

If you don't mind me asking, why do you want a 65lb bladder?

 

[aaronp]

3 Reasons:

1 - Sometimes I have to bring more than one person up from the bottom. They usually aren't wearing scuba gear.

2 - Have you ever been diving and hit the inflator button to get neutral, and realized that your BCD was venting (because it was full) and you were NOT neutral? I have.
(Altitude dive, 7mm FULL wetsuit) It sucks.

3 - I'd rather have too much lift and not need it, rather than not enough when I need it.

The ranger has a 36 lb ripcord capacity and a 20lb rear trim weight capacity. Last time I checked that equals 56 lb capacity of weight, yet it has a 45 lb bladder. This seems like a huge liability on Zeagle's part, but what do I know...

The Tech BCD comes standard with the 65lb bladder. Seems like the Rangers should too!

 

[Scared Silly]

Okay I have to ask now.

1. I do not understand what you are doing. More details please. Are you bring a person up without scuba gear are they dead or alive? If dead that is what body and lift bags are for. If alive - are they wearing a weight belt? if so drop the damn thing.

2. Nope never had that problem. How much weight do you need with that combo?

3. True, nice to have a bit extra but most folks just do not need that much lift as the bcd becomes a taco and can be hard to properly vent. There is always the exception.

4. 36 lbs rip and 20 lbs rear is more than 45 lbs but what matters is does your BCD float your rig in the water without you in it. Are you saying you need over 50lbs of weight? If so then yeah you probably need more lift.

 

[ScottZeagle]

When I purchased my Ranger LTD in the fall of last year, I wanted it with a 65lb bladder. I was told that Zeagle was not currently making the 65lb bladder for the LTD, but they would be soon, and they'd let me know.
Are they now making the 65lb bladder, and if not, when do you think it might be available?

Yes, we have them!!!

The 65lb LTD bladder assembly is Zeagle Part # 7722LTD

Call your favorite Zeagle dealer for pricing...



Thanks!

Scott

 

[gibby_z]

65lb LTD bladder Zeagle part number 7722LTD and is available now.






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[GrumpyOldGuy]

3 Reasons:

1 - Sometimes I have to bring more than one person up from the bottom. They usually aren't wearing scuba gear.

2 - Have you ever been diving and hit the inflator button to get neutral, and realized that your BCD was venting (because it was full) and you were NOT neutral? I have.
(Altitude dive, 7mm FULL wetsuit) It sucks.

3 - I'd rather have too much lift and not need it, rather than not enough when I need it.

The ranger has a 36 lb ripcord capacity and a 20lb rear trim weight capacity. Last time I checked that equals 56 lb capacity of weight, yet it has a 45 lb bladder. This seems like a huge liability on Zeagle's part, but what do I know...

The Tech BCD comes standard with the 65lb bladder. Seems like the Rangers should too!

1) If someone is not in scuba, they really don't need much lift, that is unless they wearing a lead belt as the newest fashion accessory. Lifting heavy objects using your BC is just plain dangerous.

2) What does altitude have to do with it? If you are over weighted, then you might some need extra lift. Maybe you have a reason to be over weighted. Diving can be a very diverse sport. Thus the question.

3) A little extra lift is nice, it just seemed like this was way over the top, that is why I asked and was not just screaming 'your gonna die'. I had a ranger XLT with 45lbs lift, I liked it but found it was way too bulky and way more lift than I could ever use. I am 220lbs, dive XXL 7mm FJ+Jacket and use a lot of weight when maxed out on neoprene, even then I only need about 20lbs of actual lift. And as the other poster mentioned, just because you can stuff 50lbs+ of lead in your BC does not mean you should or it is safe.

In any case, have fun and dive safe.

 

[ScottZeagle]

Oh jeez....If the guy wants a 65lb bladder, why do you guys care?

Not all divers are created equal, and they don't all dive the same setup or have the same wants or needs...

I realize that everyone believes that the way they do it is the "best", "right", or "only" way...but that simply isn't true.

Live and let dive, my friends....live and let dive.


(Ooohhh....I wonder if it is too late to trademark that!?)

 

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Oh jeez....If the guy wants a 65lb bladder, why do you guys care?

Not all divers are created equal, and they don't all dive the same setup or have the same wants or needs...

I realize that everyone believes that the way they do it is the "best", "right", or "only" way...but that simply isn't true.

Live and let dive, my friends....live and let dive.


(Ooohhh....I wonder if it is too late to trademark that!?)

State motto of New Hampshire is Life Free or Die, we often use Live Freeze or Die.

In either case Scott, no one was screaming you should do it this way or my way is best. It is merely the case of someone asking a question about an unusually large bladder and others asking "why".

Similar Example: I am on the boat about to jump in. I see a diver with hoses tangled also ready to jump, but unaware of the issue. I gently point it out to him and may offer to assist. Maybe I am poking my nose into his business, but in my mind I am being friendly. If he says, this is the way he dives, then I smile and jump in. No worries.

 

[Scared Silly]

Oh jeez....If the guy wants a 65lb bladder, why do you guys care?

Not all divers are created equal, and they don't all dive the same setup or have the same wants or needs...

I realize that everyone believes that the way they do it is the "best", "right", or "only" way...but that simply isn't true.

Actually, Scott you should care as well. I think what Grumpy and I are trying to do is help OP make a good decision. People do tend to over estimate their buoyancy needs.

Further, the OP statement:

"The ranger has a 36 lb ripcord capacity and a 20lb rear trim weight capacity. Last time I checked that equals 56 lb capacity of weight, yet it has a 45 lb bladder. This seems like a huge liability on Zeagle's part, but what do I know..."

sent up red flags to me and Grumpy. So in the spirit of da board we asked for more info to perhaps help. There may be very good reasons for needing 65 lbs of lift so hopefully the OP can educate us so we have another reference point.

On the other hand if perhaps the OP really does not need that much lift he will not be bummed out that he wasted his money on a bladder he did not really need. Which in that case he hopefully does not say "why did those folks at Zeagle let me buy a bladder so big". Which is why you should be concerned.

Perhaps a better saying - "the consumer may always be right but make sure they are rightly informed about their decision."