So in a month or so, imagine you're diving with your BP/W somewhere and the sh*t hits the fan. You gonna say to your buddy "wait here, I gotta run back to my car and get my jacket BC!"
:shocked2:
"Train the way you dive, dive the way you train."
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So in a month or so, imagine you're diving with your BP/W somewhere and the sh*t hits the fan. You gonna say to your buddy "wait here, I gotta run back to my car and get my jacket BC!"
:shocked2:
"Train the way you dive, dive the way you train."
OP
InTheDrink
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Your posts nearly always seem intelligent, with the exception of when you reply to me
Unless you're being facetious I know you're clever enough to understand why adding additional loading for a particular training may not be beneficial to that training and where the absence of that loading have have no negative impact on the benefit of that training.
If I had two more dives in the pool or in the sea with my new rig then sure, I would do the course with the new rig. However I don't, am unfamiliar with the equipment, it isn't fully adjusted yet, etc. so there would be no benefit from doing the course with this rig apart from seeing how I'd do with the additional loading. No harm in that of course, however to suggest that there is harm in the other way (sans additional loading) just makes you sound dogmatic (and silly).
I may be doing the course, including pool, with a dry suit as it happens, and I've never used one of those before either, so I'm intensely relaxed about using my old jacket rather than something I am not yet familiar with. If I get my way I'll not be using a dry suit either.
To turn your platitude back on you - I'll train the way I dive, and dive the way I train: with equipment I am familiar and comfortable with.
Cheers,
J
p.s. in any event, your imaginary scene is unlikely to occur: I don't drive
Bubbletrubble
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@InTheDrink: RJP makes a good point. It's definitely something you should consider. That being said, given the circumstances, I don't think it's unreasonable for you to do the rescue class in your old, familiar gear. It's important to have yourself squared away before you think about how best to help a diver in trouble.
FWIW, I have to say that the adjustment for me from a conventional jacket BCD to a BP/W was minimal. Probably a couple of dives at most before I didn't think about it at all in the water. Harness adjustment was very, very close the first time around. YMMV.
The drysuit...that's a completely different story. It will take many dives before you feel completely comfortable with that. If you have no experience in a drysuit and you attempt to use the drysuit during your rescue class, you will regret it. Either re-schedule your rescue class for when you are comfortable with all of your new gear...or use the old, familiar gear tomorrow.
Have fun with your class.
FWIW, I have to say that the adjustment for me from a conventional jacket BCD to a BP/W was minimal. Probably a couple of dives at most before I didn't think about it at all in the water. Harness adjustment was very, very close the first time around. YMMV.
The drysuit...that's a completely different story. It will take many dives before you feel completely comfortable with that. If you have no experience in a drysuit and you attempt to use the drysuit during your rescue class, you will regret it. Either re-schedule your rescue class for when you are comfortable with all of your new gear...or use the old, familiar gear tomorrow.
Have fun with your class.
Unless you're being facetious I know you're clever enough to understand why adding additional loading for a particular training may not be beneficial to that training and where the absence of that loading have have no negative impact on the benefit of that training.
Sounds to me that this isn't your first rodeo
Good thinking ... Someone I did my rescue course did the same thing... they switched to a new BP/W that they never dove with and had problems. They ended up going back to their jacket to finish the training. The person was a good diver, I had dove with them a few times before and could attest to that. It's just that with new equipment it takes time to adjust and get used to.
Have fun tommorrow.
Sounds to me that this isn't your first rodeo
Good thinking ... Someone I did my rescue course did the same thing... they switched to a new BP/W that they never dove with and had problems. They ended up going back to their jacket to finish the training. The person was a good diver, I had dove with them a few times before and could attest to that. It's just that with new equipment it takes time to adjust and get used to.
Have fun tommorrow.
OP
InTheDrink
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I appreciate RJP's general point about diving and training the same gear. But he's intelligent enough to know that there are reasonable exceptions, and taking a course whilst using unfamiliar gear *might* not be the best course of action, depending. I'm very happy with my new rig but haven't drilled with it at all apart from checking out my buoyancy control and making some rough adjustments. For me that is more than reasonable grounds not to take it on this course, although I did consider it.
Anyhow, bedtime. Course commences in 8 hours.
Thanks,
John
Your posts nearly always seem intelligent, with the exception of when you reply to me
Unless you're being facetious I know you're clever enough to understand why adding additional loading for a particular training may not be beneficial to that training and where the absence of that loading have have no negative impact on the benefit of that training.
If I had two more dives in the pool or in the sea with my new rig then sure, I would do the course with the new rig. However I don't, am unfamiliar with the equipment, it isn't fully adjusted yet, etc. so there would be no benefit from doing the course with this rig apart from seeing how I'd do with the additional loading. No harm in that of course, however to suggest that there is harm in the other way (sans additional loading) just makes you sound dogmatic (and silly).
I may be doing the course, including pool, with a dry suit as it happens, and I've never used one of those before either, so I'm intensely relaxed about using my old jacket rather than something I am not yet familiar with. If I get my way I'll not be using a dry suit either.
To turn your platitude back on you - I'll train the way I dive, and dive the way I train: with equipment I am familiar and comfortable with.
Cheers,
J
p.s. in any event, your imaginary scene is unlikely to occur: I don't drive
Appease the God's. Rescue youre ass and pass the class.
If you just want to collect the card, take the course in your old BCD.
On the other hand, if you actually want training that's actually appropriate to the gear you're actually going to be diving, put the course off a month or two.
RJP... you sound grumpier than me tonight... but you know as well as me that rescue is not a "gimmie" course. Inthedrink is gonna learn alot tomorrow
I hope your course goes well John. Let us know how things went.
Wayne
Wayne
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