After we had multiple discussions in the past and just recently in this thread:
I f*** up and I am ashamed
i want to pick this topic up.
I think its not new, that there are DM´s out there, which are poorly training. Without any diving knowlede, byciclekicks and just overall danger to themself or the customers.
I saw fresh DMs, worse then OWD students.
I dont like the idea of putting the dive limits higher. because 1. dive logs can be faked(and are faked!) and 2. i saw many DM´s with 60-100 dives which are just great. And i saw DM´s with hundreds of dives, which were just bad.
So in my opinion hard limits like #of dives or total underwater time wont fix the issue.
I think there should be a in water test. Without skills(or just some skills for taskloading?)
Before registering for the DM course, there should be a general check dive, which can only be passed, when diving safely and good enough to fokus on other stuff(eg. customer), instead of own bouyancy.
whats your opinion? You got experience with bad DMs`? how is it possible to fix the problem?(in theorie..)
I f*** up and I am ashamed
i want to pick this topic up.
I think its not new, that there are DM´s out there, which are poorly training. Without any diving knowlede, byciclekicks and just overall danger to themself or the customers.
I saw fresh DMs, worse then OWD students.
I dont like the idea of putting the dive limits higher. because 1. dive logs can be faked(and are faked!) and 2. i saw many DM´s with 60-100 dives which are just great. And i saw DM´s with hundreds of dives, which were just bad.
So in my opinion hard limits like #of dives or total underwater time wont fix the issue.
I think there should be a in water test. Without skills(or just some skills for taskloading?)
Before registering for the DM course, there should be a general check dive, which can only be passed, when diving safely and good enough to fokus on other stuff(eg. customer), instead of own bouyancy.
whats your opinion? You got experience with bad DMs`? how is it possible to fix the problem?(in theorie..)
The TLDR of the other thread is:
The comment I made in the other thread is essentially:
- The "DM" in that story lead a group of divers, who were unqualified & not equipped to enter a cave (or cavern that was borderline cave), and placed divers at risk. The unqualified divers also followed, placing themselves at risk.
- Another DM in that thread had a few glaring knowledge-gaps. (please don't dog-pile that person further)
- Should the industry be more forthcoming about "DM just means little more than tour-guide?"
- Should we encourage beginner divers to be less trusting of DMs & be more prepared to stop if the DM does something you're not ready for?
- Should we not call them "Dive Masters"?
- Are there massive gaps in DM training or qualification that need to be addressed? And if yes, which Dive Agencies have those gaps?