Pt. Lobos anyone? May 23rd

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my experience tells me I don't want to dive with you.
 
i am fairly new to the sport. however, i do many other extreme sports and have great outdoor common sense. i have been on so called advanced dives before and loved it and I believe that it didn't take experience to get me through it. sorry i riped into you chuck but the last guy that was worried about my experience and said he had over 200 dives decided that he would be diving solo after we get in, ended up asking me which way back to the boat. i know how to read a compass. then the jack ass got lost again and we had to go after him in the boat because he got turned around again and went the wrong direction. while me and the other rookie enjoyed a good laugh. i understand that one doesn't what to dive with a bozo but this area is novice (whaler's cove) unless you have a kayak or scooter to get around the corner and then it is intermediate. so i don't see any reason to be worried about experience. if this will be your first dive, i will be glad to show you what i know. i am looking for someone that IS interested having a nice, easy, safe day in the water. my apologies again chuck. and to you too, brian. i always have fun. you do the same.
 
No problem.

I see people looking for buddies on the net all the time, without posting anything about
their experience level. You don't just put an ad in the paper to sell a "car", you advertise
a "2001 Nissan Pathfinder, Silver, 250 HP 3.5 liter V6, 5-speed, air, new tires, Class 3
trailer hitch, one owner, 60K miles, ..." Same with looking for a buddy: "930 Monterey dives, 120
in the last year, last dove two weeks ago at the Farallones, NAUI Advanced card
(yawn), Rescue class, DAN O2 card, Nitrox."

I wouldn't call the outside end of Whalers a novice site. It's intermediate depth (75'),
it's a long surface swim, you can end up next to the rocks, and it's the thickest kelp
bed in Monterey county.


Chuck
 
tacohandler:
...however, i do many other extreme sports...

Diving is an extreme sport??? I don't think so. It's possible to turn it into an extreme sport, of course, and lots of people around here are into technical diving because they want to do "extreme sports", but I certainly don't see recreational diving as being an extreme sport.

Personally, I became interested in diving because it was just about the most relaxing recreational activity I had ever encountered. For me, there was--and still is--something truly magical about the ability to go down on a reef and fly like a bird in a magical fairyland full of strange and exotic creatures and plant life. While my contemporaries were dropping acid to get their kicks (yeah, I'm dating myself here), I instead found a fantasyland under water that has never ceased to fascinate me. And I think most other divers approach the sport with similar perspectives. However, I have been a bit shocked to encounter a very different perspective since coming onto the California diving scene in the past month...

I think my first rude introduction to this came when I posted (from the tropics) what was an admittedly naive question on this forum and received the following response:

"Please get some serious Monterey experience
before you even start to think about teaching here.
It's very different from the tropics. First and foremost,
tropical divers get very spoiled by the small buoyancy
changes with depth, and get really foxed by the large
buoyancy swings. And then there's kelp, and cold water, and
big surf, and ..."

Yes, there it is in a nutshell: "We California divers are the real macho men of the deep; the rest of you wimps should beware!" I see this attitude over and over again out here, and it really saddens me. There are lots of newcomers to the sport of diving around here who encounter this as their first image of the social climate of the California diving scene and quickly turn away from what could have been a lifetime of enjoyment for them. I will concede that there are a few extra hassles in wearing a hood and gloves, plus all the lead it takes to get down in a thick wetsuit or in a dry suit, but it only took me a few dives to get used to all that. And the reward I've found for mastering those few extra hassles has been a fantasyland right here in my own back yard that is every bit as enchanting as the one at my winter home on Little Cayman Island. My only regret now is that for the 20 years I've lived in California I spent all that money flying back and forth to the Caribbean so I could get my diving kicks in short bursts instead of being able to do it whenever I wanted.

Tomorrow morning there are three of us who are going to take a group of 22 high school students out on their first ocean dive ever. I spent all day in the pool with them yesterday working with them on the basics, and I have no doubt tomorrow will be one of the most memorable days of their lives. Please don't anybody try to tell them diving is an "extreme sport" which is only for macho men! In the first place, over half of this group are women. And in the second place, they're really looking forward to just going down and hanging out with the fish and checking out all the cool starfish on the bottom!

Sorry to rant, but I think some of us need an attitude check. Pacific diving need not be an extreme sport.

Bruce
 
You're quoting me.

Those of us who have been diving here a while have seen
tropical divers who had the attitude that they could dive
anywhere get in trouble, and even die. It's not extreme here
but it is different, and requires some additional skills and
knowledge. You can't just jump in. You're the one who
needs the attitude check because your "just jump in"
attitude can get you or somebody else killed.

From a skills and knowledge standpoint, I don't think
you got it yet. It's not "all the lead", it's that the thick
warm suits have much bigger buoyancy swings and
tropical divers aren't used to that.

You are the one who brought up gender. There are
lots of fine female divers around here, including my GF
and usual buddy, Admiral Linda.

See you at the Breakwater Saturday. I'm running a
"tune-up" dive for Diving Singles.
 
Hey chuck, if you could read as well as you can sell used cars in the paper, you would have known that I too said, unless you exit the cove it would be novice. In which case if you did, it would be intermediate. The reason we got in this pissing match is because I am looking for a dive buddy for a novice, kick back day of having a good time in the water. I really don't care if someone with no experience wants to dive with me. Nor do I want to dive with someone who thinks they know it all and rookies shouldn't be in there way. By the way you asked me for my resume you seemed to be that type. I bet I'm right. Why wouldn't you just say,"let's go"! Then if you found out that I didn't know jack you could have taught me something. I guess your not that type of person, so I care to dive with your type.
Next zf2nt?-
You may not call diving an extreme sport. And maybe that is a stretch, however I believe it qualifies. If it involves entering the food chain at a lower than the top of the list position, this helps. If it involves the possiblity of drowning unless you have grace under pressure, this also helps me call this sport extreme. If a sport requires your equipment to not fail or you will die, this helps. If you are treating this sport like a round of golf, I hope your students never get into trouble and you need to think and react. I have got a question for you rtd2, what do you call an extreme sport? Another thing, ladies can do extreme sports as well as macho men you jack f#$k. My girlfriend rock climbes and hangs from a rope hundreds of feet off the ground, does that qualify? And she is hot and looks great in a sundress. She would kick your a#s if she read that. I've guided rivers with every type of person you can imagine, so extreme sports which is only for "macho men" is your fantasy.
good day tools
kevin
 

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