Project Argonaut, totally new, vintage style DH regulator

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Trapezus, saying you don't trust the design or what you may perceive as a prototype is your opinion and you are welcome to it, but implying the design has not been tested is simply incorrect.

If you want to avoid promoting Bryan's site, then don't bring it up here. This thread is for discussing the regulator project.
 
Will you have these for sale at some point?

I have never used one but I am intrigued with the idea.
 
It will be available for sale, but I am not sure exactly when.
 
I will be interested. I will watch here for news. Thanks!
It will be available for sale, but I am not sure exactly when.
 
IF you are interested in double hose diving, unitl the Argo is available, buying a DA Aquamaster or Royal Aquamaster and restoring it is an option (or find one already restored). These are great regs, lots of them around and while not quite up to the Argo they are good preforming regs that will allow you to get introduced to DH diving.
Missed you at Sand Dog Luis, we did get a new DH diver to join us today. Henry loaned him a Phoenix and I took him on his first DH dive.
 
Mr.Jonh C Ratliff, thank you very much for your information.I am 40 years experienced diver and scuba collector halfway around the world
I respect everyone's labor ,not discredit anyone goal. I know Luis is one of the venerable and helpful I respect him.
I have 19 differents brands Doublehose regulator.All of them are working, and I'm diving deeper.
My choice as the original factory, in which the performance of the regulator in deep water.For example I prefer Royal Mistral for deep water 200+ feet.I have all La Spirotechnique equipments .
I never live any problem with them.
I do comparisons between the original state regulators;the best results are doing factory. A prototype is a matter of choice.
Only I donn't want that this site Bryan's site and his manufacturing lack of advertising space. Many people think that same.
I donn't know how I explained with my bad english. I would like to agree with everyone who loves regards here.

The Phoenix, the HPR and the Argonaut are not trumped up and as I own and use the first two and have seen the Argonaut in person now twice and seen it inside and out, you are misinformed.


Two examples, recent and past, of factory built and designed regulators that were fairly poor either in design or execution or both:

The New Mistral
The Voit Trieste

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Luis,
Will they have serial number?

Yes, my preferred serial number type (just like in the Phoenix) includes the manufacturing year and the manufacturing batch number.

---------- Post added April 8th, 2013 at 06:34 AM ----------

Hi Nemrod,

I think you meant "New Mistral", not "New Mentor", isn't that right?
 
Yes, my preferred serial number type (just like in the Phoenix) includes the manufacturing year and the manufacturing batch number.

---------- Post added April 8th, 2013 at 06:34 AM ----------

Hi Nemrod,

I think you meant "New Mistral", not "New Mentor", isn't that right?

Yes, sorry, I did mean the so called New Mistral.

The Argonaut had a bunch of admirers down here in Florida. Much drooling. Not sure how Rob kept it from going on an unescorted adventure :).

Some of the obvious advantages over the Phoenix are:

1. If I recall, stock HP seat pin length.
2. Reduced weight
3. Reduced height/length from nozzle face to can top
4. Integrated nozzle assembly removes a failure/leak point
5. Hose clocking is set and very well thought out for singles use especially
6. Adjustable LP orifice
7. An improved HPR second stage

Then of course what it shares in common with a PRAM HPR, unequalled among any double hose regulator and very few single hose regulators, superb breathing performance, effortless, so I am told, but well experienced with the Phoenix. It is a shame some of those less "trumped up" big time companies with those "real" engineers could not have designed something half as good. But, look on the bright side, all of the folks who have been hoarding parts and "big time collector"ing of old, busted down, inadequate performance double hose regs may now have a real option for what those big time companies should have built. If they knew how, apparemtly they do not however, thus stuff like the New Mistral.

Well, I could live with a nice Mentor, even if it is second fiddle to the PRAM HPR. Being trumped up and all. Course, I am not a big time tech diver and regulator hoarder, just a little ol' scuba diver with 47 years experience. Last time I checked my math, that is more than "40 years experience."

I got a new and un used AMF Voit Trieste 2 in original box. It has same ports . I am interesting black T-shirt with logo La Spirotechnique where it is sold ?

If you want a shirt, why not just have one printed up. Should be easy for someone with so much experience. By the way, the Trieste, cute little thing, too bad it breaths like sucking air through a vacuum cleaner. But, it was professionally engineered, supposedly, forty something years ago. I guess that was before they understood things like diaphragm size and Venturi effect and mechanical advantage of levers. I thought the Romans figured some of that out a few thousand years ago, but, what the heck.

But, you know what, I think here in the 21st century, Luis has figured all that complicated technical stuff out.

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Don't be to harsh on our Turkish diving collector, he is expressing his opinion and it is a valid one.
I recall so many year ago I was a consultant/test diver for a major diving company that is no longer in business. I attended a short meeting on a new proposed regulator. I checked it over signed out one for a test dive.
All went well until about 3/4s way through the dive when the second stage cover worked loose and flooded. I made a free assent minus the cover.
I informed the engineers and they designed a new second stage cover securing method for the production unit.
I have the utmost confidence in Luis Los Hero's design and Bryan Pennington's production of these modified regulator hot rods and would not hesitate to dive one.
Trapezus, As a friend I would suggest that you might want to be the first in your country of Turkey to own and dive one
 

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