Pony tank

[gamon]

Notice now the ones who say I am giving bad advice say it's because you "shouldn't use a pony in your gas calculations" as if that perfectly good bottle full of gas doesn't exist.

To them I say this: Gas is gas, whether it's split between an AL80 and a 30cf pony or a larger tank- I still surface with more gas than the average AL80 single tank diver.

It's perfectly safe- and I have the redundancy as stated.

If you think my advice is bad then give a good reason besides "you shouldn't do it"

Because that's not saying anything at all.

 

[Divin'Papaw]

Notice now the ones who say I am giving bad advice say it's because you "shouldn't use a pony in your gas calculations" as if that perfectly good bottle full of gas doesn't exist.

To them I say this: Gas is gas, whether it's split between an AL80 and a 30cf pony or a larger tank- I still surface with more gas than the average AL80 single tank diver.

It's perfectly safe- and I have the redundancy as stated.

If you think my advice is bad then give a good reason besides "you shouldn't do it"

Because that's not saying anything at all.

Because if you’re planning on it being there it’s not a redundant, emergency air source. It’s not your gas reserve it’s your redundant air source. Those are two very different things. If you don’t get that then take a solo course.

 

[scubapr1705]

Ok. So, if I understood the "problem" correctly, it is based on naming his second tank a "pony".
If he names his second tank as just his second tank, then there is no problem?

 

[gamon]

Ok I see where your confusion is coming from @JimBlay

In your haste to discredit my advice you clearly missed my post where I clearly explained that I treat the pony bottle as a redundant air source throughout MOST of the dive, but toward the end of the dive I consider it to be my reserve.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clear up the misconception.

 

[Divin'Papaw]

Ok. So, if I understood the "problem" correctly, it is based on naming his second tank a "pony".
If he names his second tank as just his second tank, then there is no problem?

No, it’s not just about the name. He’s using it as a stage meaning he doesn’t have true redundancy in a proper alternate air source. It doesn’t provide the safety & conservatism required for a ‘pony bottle’ or alternate air source.

 

[Ghost95]

A pony tank is something that you don't plan to use. A second tank, or double, is planned for use.

But this is my opinion and how I learned.

 

[Divin'Papaw]

Ok I see where your confusion is coming from @JimBlay

In your haste to discredit my advice you clearly missed my post where I clearly explained that I treat the pony bottle as a redundant air source throughout MOST of the dive, but toward the end of the dive I consider it to be my reserve.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clear up the misconception.

Sorry. Your attempt at humor aside it’s horrible advice and violates all standard practice for solo diving or other uses for a redundant air source. It’s your planned reserve period.

 

[Ghost95]

Oh, wait. Are we doing humor?

If we are, then the OP should get some split fins, a dry snorkel, and a Spare Air and he'll be good to go!!!

As long as he has a Perdix...

No, seriously, just get bigger tanks...

 

[lexvil]

So what does a side mount diver call the “other tank”?

 

[Ghost95]

So what does a side mount diver call the “other tank”?

"Lefty"