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Point Honda wrecks, California

Discussion in 'Wreck Diving' started by WreckWriter, Mar 31, 2003.

  1. WreckWriter

    WreckWriter Instructor, Scuba

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    There was an incident in 1923 that resulted in the loss of 7 Navy destroyers at Point Pedernales (also known as Point Honda) California. I never seem to see any discussion of these wrecks here. Are the California divers not diving this site?

    As I understand it the conditions are not often suitable for diving but its supposed to be fabulous when they are.

    Anyone done these?

    http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/events/ev-1920s/ev-1923/honda-8.htm

    WW
     
  2. Scubaroo

    Scubaroo Great White

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    California Wreck Divers have a write-up on them...

    http://www.cawreckdivers.org/Wrecks/Honda.htm

    There's a stack of other wrecks in the near vicinity as well.

    Given that the depths for the wrecks range from 0-40', there's probably not much left. It's more of a history writeup than information about diveable wrecks.
     
  3. WreckWriter

    WreckWriter Instructor, Scuba

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    No, they're not intact of course but the debris fields should be massive (not to mention filled with cool arties....)

    I know people were diving them 10 years ago or so.

    WW
     
  4. kelpmermaid

    kelpmermaid Loggerhead Turtle

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    if there are any restrictions on the area -- isn't it close to Vanderburg?
     
  5. Scubaroo

    Scubaroo Great White

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    Quite possible - it's the only section of coastline without photographs online at www.californiacoastline.org because of the proximity to "Vandenberg AFB restricted area".
     
  6. jengineer

    jengineer Instructor, Scuba

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    there is no public beach access to these wrecks since the beach access is owned by ME, your local US tax payer. And of course for some reason the caretaker, oh what a oxy moron this will be, is the USAF. Yep the beach access is part of the Vandenberg Air Force Base. I got a look see when my sis was stationed there a decade or two ago. Got to walk around SLC-6 (slick six, which was intended to launch the Space Shuttle - it has been torn down and rebuilt for Delta III and IV style satellite launches.

    As for Honda you can get a good look from the bluffs around the area. Before airplanes were running into high rise buildings you could get limited access to them from the ocean, say Santa Barbara for big boats, if there was going to be a luanch you would get run off. As for collecting brass... well you will have to talk to the rapers and pillagers at the previously mentioned California Wreck Divers site. The Navy still considers those wrecks theirs and the local military takes pride in taking away any brass that divers may bring up. That does not mean that some of the "historical preservationists" have not been able to obtain some of the brass.

    There are quite a few books about the disaster and the proceeding from the trial of one of the captins that did not follow orders.

    By the way the flowers in Lompoc, Vandenberg's city neighbor, are in bloom and quite wonderful to see. You have heard about the corn fields in the mid west - Lompoc is known for their flower fields.

    je
     
  7. Scubaroo

    Scubaroo Great White

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    ...access is no longer available, from either shore or boat?
     
  8. PhotoTJ

    PhotoTJ Solo Diver

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    The interesting thing is that the Navy sold all of these vessels to a mister Robert J. Smith of Oakland, California, back in 1925. There is no record of the Navy buying them back. If the brass was THAT important to you, you may have a case to build on.

    I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV, I'm just sayin'.
     

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