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Just returned from a great trip to Wakatobi (which I’ll cover later in another thread), and I wanted to address an issue which I would not have been aware of before this trip. We have never dived anywhere west of California before, not to mention the Asian Indo-Pacific. Be forewarned this thread is not about diving.

We decided to do five days in Bali prior to Wakatobi, since Bali is the required departure point for the shuttle to the resort. We had a wonderful time! Spent it in Ubud, and did day trips from there, some by car, some on foot. On the return trip, we spent one night in Kuta, to be near the airport the following day.

So, to the point of the title of this thread. We discovered in the Balinese a wonderful, generous, cheerful, warm-hearted group of people. There was no one who was not helpful to us, and they were eager to please in whatever service they offered. We would go back to Bali for a long stay in a New York minute (if we had one).

Since the terrorist bombing in a nightclub in Kuta on October 12, 2002, and subsequent ones in 2005, the Balinese tourist economy has been devastated, and without that they have little to produce income on their beautiful island. The bombers were not from Bali, and have admitted to acting out their pro-Muslim militant feelings by terrorizing Bali, a Hindu island in the midst of a Muslim nation (no, this post is not an anti-Muslim rant, so please don’t go there). The Balinese are angry that this would happen to their homeland.

OK, bottom line … if you are going to Southeast Asia, or anywhere in the Indo-Pacific area, and can put Bali on your itinerary, please do so to help these people. I’m speaking as an American, and if I listen to my Department of State, I should avoid Bali altogether. Give me Bali over a lot of cities in the US when it comes to personal safety. Be sensible, have a good time, don’t be an ugly American (or any other nationality), and help these people out. We went places where the locals said they hadn’t seen an American in six months, or a year or more. One individual only worked only one day in the year following the bombings. My wife talked with a group of ladies who had not sold anything in their shops in two weeks, and needed to buy rice. They didn’t have the advantage of rural folk in being able to plant and raise their own.

Even in Kuta, Bali’s “ground zero”, we were welcomed warmly. If you stay at one of the larger hotels in this area, you’ll find their grounds patrolled by security, with entering vehicles stopped and searched underneath with a mirror. They are taking seriously the need for a heightened level of awareness, but it hasn’t dampened their wonderful outlook on life. In the smaller independent hotels, you can “disappear” into the flow of life there.

OK, I’m done. Please, go have a great time with some great people, on a lovely island where a stay is a real bargain to boot. You will be a richer person for the experience.
 
Since the terrorist bombing in a nightclub in Kuta on October 12, 2002, and subsequent ones in 2005, the Balinese tourist economy has been devastated, and without that they have little to produce income on their beautiful island.

I agree with your comments on the people of Bali, but I think your comments above might be over the top. Yes, immediately after the bombings, the local tourist industry got hit hard and tourism is the major source of income for the island. But from my observations last month (on holiday for week and a separate business trip to Jakarta speaking with various local business folks, including some bank executives who happen to be Balinese), the impression I got was Bali tourism was back in full force and it's not just the budget backpackers/ surfers but increasingly more upscale tourists who are demanding uber-luxurious resorts around the island. I also have a number of local expat friends who are involved in the real estate market in Bali and have been told the resort and private vacation properties are selling like hotcakes in key areas...

So... yes, Please go to Bali... It's an amazing location topside and u/w... But it's not like people are starving or famine has struck the island... Balinese are very resilient folks and I think they have rebounded well from the bombings...
 
I agree that the Balinese people are wonderful. I took my wife and two children to Bali this past summer. They have recovered from the economical devastation from the bombings but have not recovered completely. It is a wonderful, beautiful island with terrific people. Everyone should make an effort to stop in Bali is your travel plans allow! Thanks, highdesert, for bringing this to our attention.
 
I agree with your comments on the people of Bali, but I think your comments above might be over the top. ... the impression I got was Bali tourism was back in full force and it's not just the budget backpackers/ surfers but increasingly more upscale tourists who are demanding uber-luxurious resorts around the island. I also have a number of local expat friends who are involved in the real estate market in Bali and have been told the resort and private vacation properties are selling like hotcakes in key areas...

So... yes, Please go to Bali... It's an amazing location topside and u/w... But it's not like people are starving or famine has struck the island... Balinese are very resilient folks and I think they have rebounded well from the bombings...

I'm afraid I must disagree for two reasons ... a small (compared to pevious tourist volume) number of people going to over-the-top, high-end resorts really does little for the larger number of average to lower class Balinese who lived off what they made from us "common folk". And I have to put some stock in the large number of conversations we had with those Balinese who say they are in difficulty because tourism is way down.

Secondly, I can imagine that the real estate market is indeed hot, given that there are empty, closed hotels in Kuta area that are probably on the market for dimes on the dollar. We stayed next door to one such in October. If I were in the hotel business, and had the wherewithal to speculate, I'd probably jump on a couple Kuta hotels too.
 
yes, great place. Not dangerous, relatively speaking, we felt. (maybe the driving)

The people are the greatest. Ubud was amazing.

very affordable, we had a private villa and pool for about 120 USD.
 
I'm afraid I must disagree for two reasons ... a small (compared to pevious tourist volume) number of people going to over-the-top, high-end resorts really does little for the larger number of average to lower class Balinese who lived off what they made from us "common folk". And I have to put some stock in the large number of conversations we had with those Balinese who say they are in difficulty because tourism is way down.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree ;)

I should have mention in my observation that it's not just the 5-6 star Amandari/ Four Seasons crowd that are flooding Bali. Strolling around central Kuta, the streets were packed with your regular Western tourists who are probably staying at <$150/nite hotels and the local stores/ stalls looked quite busy with side walk traffic. On top of that, although this was due largely to the local Hari Raya holiday, there was a large influx of Indonesian tourists from Java. In Ubud, large tourist buses were dumping off Japanese and Chinese tourists in the central market. Come this holiday season, I'm sure Kuta will be flooded with the usual Aussie tourists.

And, Bali is about to host a UN Climate Change Conference next month that will take most of the hotels up to 100 % capacity for a couple of weeks right before the important Christmas season.

Yes, I'm sure there must be some small shops that haven't recovered fully post-bombings. Around the outer roads near the center of Ubud, personally I think there are waay too many small art craft shops selling the same useless crap... but sadly, the reality is all economies will go through cycles...

Anyways, we all agree the island is magical and the people are probably the nicest people you'll come across in the world. I just feel there are other areas in Indonesia, let alone Asia that are in more need of tourist $'s and assistance than Bali...
 
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree ;)

Come this holiday season, I'm sure Kuta will be flooded with the usual Aussie tourists.

Since our original exchange, I happened across a travel warning to Australians considering Indonesia that is very strongly worded. I'm not sure whether this site (diving related) wrote the warning, or reprinted it from elsewhere.

I would think that some Aussie readers might take this warning with a grain of salt, while many others might take it seriously. At any rate, given Australia's proximity to Bali, and the dependence of Bali on Australia for a good portion of its tourism, I would think it would have an effect on tourism numbers.

Regarding your point that many other places could use the $$$, I'm sure you are right; in my limited experience in Asia, I can only comment on what I saw on our recent trip.
 
Actually tourism to the island is up this year, as of august the island has had more tourists visit the island than in 2006. Hotels $40-$60 a night are doing quite well so far. Real estate market is hot because people want to get in before the land and housing prices get to high.

As to travel warnings, welcome to the political world and the world of liabilities. Interestingly travel remain for Bali and Indonesia, but there was never one for the US or that I recall for the UK (strange that). No matter where we travel or don't for that matter we maybe at risk whether it be terrorists or drive by shootings or just some one gone crazy with a weapon.

So yes it is a beautiful island with lovely people and truly a wonderful place to visit.
 
I'm happy to hear the tourist economy is doing better! I agree with your point ... why no travel warnings for the US and UK? In my town of 15,000 people, I feel perfectly safe, day or night. But I'd rather walk around Bali than many places in the US or UK.
 
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