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shugar:
the orange-a-likes are kiat-kiats... kinda like mini ponkans...


although if my mom's theory is correct, there should be at least ONE ilocano there since they're to be found everywhere on the globe... kind of like chinese and snakes

Jag


kiat-kiats pala yun ..... ang pangit naman ....

I agree with your mom ! afer all the archipelago has chinese genes, and if the truth be revealed it is the Chinese that first circumnavigated the GLobe. think of it, when the Europeans arrived here (FIRST ARRIVED) the archipelago had a bustling trade with the chinese (shinese Junks, vats, names, etc....)

to bolster this check out http://www.1421.tv/
 
paolov:
kiat-kiats pala yun ..... ang pangit naman ....

I agree with your mom ! afer all the archipelago has chinese genes, and if the truth be revealed it is the Chinese that first circumnavigated the GLobe. think of it, when the Europeans arrived here (FIRST ARRIVED) the archipelago had a bustling trade with the chinese (shinese Junks, vats, names, etc....)

to bolster this check out http://www.1421.tv/
They probably were the first to circumnavigate the globe, I read several years ago that there was a junk found off the coast of California that dated pre Viking.
I need to look that up on the web.
***Done. though I need to do more.
Found an article that what was found were anchors, but following experiments are debunking the possibility. Still a fight going on about whether the Chinese landed and the dates were also different from what I remembered.
***Now I've glanced through your site. I think I'll stay there for a while.
Here's a CNN article about the author from Jan. 13, 2003: http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/01/13/1421/

Tom
 
no offense to westerners but popular history has for a long time forgotten that the chinese had a sophisticated society 3000 or so years ago... roughly the same time as the more classic societies of greece and rome (and w/o the rampant sex i hear)

many of the inventions we enjoy today found their roots in china... silk, paper, gun powder, noodles and pasta, printing, and so many other things...

i guess it's just the fault/ fortune of the chinese that they kept to themselves for a couple of thousand years giving western culture free reign to "conquer" the world and make their own innovations...

Jag

PS
disclaimer: no intention to get political hehehehehe
 
shugar:
no offense to westerners but popular history has for a long time forgotten that the chinese had a sophisticated society 3000 or so years ago... roughly the same time as the more classic societies of greece and rome (and w/o the rampant sex i hear)

many of the inventions we enjoy today found their roots in china... silk, paper, gun powder, noodles and pasta, printing, and so many other things...

i guess it's just the fault/ fortune of the chinese that they kept to themselves for a couple of thousand years giving western culture free reign to "conquer" the world and make their own innovations...

Jag

PS
disclaimer: no intention to get political hehehehehe

Actually, about the only ones in the US who are not aware of that truth are the ones who didn't pay attention in school.
That would be a percentage somewhere upwards of 80, by my guess.
My genetics are mostly German, but we're all the same species, or so I learned in biology. So, I don't think people should take offense; unless I start ranting on what I think about non-thinkers.
The Sacramento Junk is almost surely the one I was remembering, I think the dates were fuzzy, because I'm also sure that the article I read did say that it predated Columbus, not the Vikings.
As a side note, Thor Heyerdahl sailed from the Mediteranian to South America on an Egyptian Reed boat (the Kon Tiki) in 1947 to test his contention that the Egyptians could have settled there before the modern era.
*** Correction! I must be getting sometimer's, Kon Tiki was the trip from Peru to Polynesia; I have to look up the other one. My guess is that the second was called something like the "Ra expedition".
***Okay, that was, of course, more complicated than I remembered, here's a good starting point for a look into Thor Heyerdahl's work: http://www.piramidesdeguimar.net/ingles/thor_expe.htm

Tom
 
i read the book 1421 two years ago. very interesting and entertaining!!

it's a thick book
 
Nomaster:
As a side note, Thor Heyerdahl sailed from the Mediteranian to South America on an Egyptian Reed boat (the Kon Tiki) in 1947 to test his contention that the Egyptians could have settled there before the modern era.
Tom


do they have book on the expedition ?
 
paolov:
do they have book on the expedition ?
"Kon Tiki" is in book form, but I don't remember the exact name of the book for the "Ra Expeditions" I'll go check and be back in a minute.
***Keeping with good logic, his publisher named it "The Ra Expeditions", go figure.
For some of his other work:
http://www.geocities.com/dotgames/nor/th.html

Tom
 
Hi everyone,

Either I missed it, or the topics changed to food?!?

We know htat the vis clears up after a couple days from raining....So how's the water vis doing after the typhoon in early December??
 

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