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I think you missed my point surgeon, I said viral cause is a "rule out" diagnosis, once you have not found anything else. Viral labyrinthitis can have persistant symptom for years - not months. I think viral is a catch all term for "idiopathic", which means the physician is admitting he's an idiot.

The dude need a good physician... Not necessary a physician who is a "dive" expert.
 
fisherdvm:
I think you missed my point surgeon, I said viral cause is a "rule out" diagnosis, once you have not found anything else. Viral labyrinthitis can have persistant symptom for years - not months. I think viral is a catch all term for "idiopathic", which means the physician is admitting he's an idiot.

The dude need a good physician... Not necessary a physician who is a "dive" expert.

Viral labyrinthitis is an acute, debilitating illness associated with vertigo, unsteadiness and occasional hearing loss. It can last for months, even (very rarely) years, that's true, but the problem described here isn't anything like labryinthitis. In the few cases I've seen and, according to what I've read, vertigo is virtually always present and, at least initially, is incapacitating.

The only viral syndromes that might look like this, that I can think of, is chronic CMV, EBV or Hep C or B, but a) CMV is unlikely in non-immunosuppressed people; b) EBV is associated with chronic fatigue, which may or may not be what's going on here and c) chronic hepatitis is a possibility and should be looked for, as i mentioned. All of these diagnoses can be tested for easily. Distant possibilities include encephalytic pathogens like West Nile virus, which presents with acute headache and meningismus but can also produce long-term mental clouding, apparently. When people speak of a "virus" they are generally referring to crowd diseases like cold or flu bugs, not mosquito born brain viruses and it was these crowd viruses that I thought were unlikely sources here. Viral illnesses are not "waste basket" diagnoses--- they have specific geographic and seasonal demographics, specific clinical syndromes and can be diagnosed with laboratory testing in many cases.

Idiopathic means the precise etiology of a disease is not known, it doesn't mean that the physician is an idiot NOR does it mean that there is no diagnosis or treatment. Parkinson's is an idiopathic disease, as is MS, but both have effective treatments and are easily diagnosed.

You are misusing the term "rule out" --- it doesn't mean what's left after you haven't found anything, it means a diagnosis to be considered and looked for actively. When a patient presents with a list of signs and symptoms, a laundry list of potential "rule out" diagnoses are entertained and systematically eliminated, if possible. Sometimes no answer is found, but that doesn't mean the doctors are idiots. Not every problem can be solved, in medicine or any other human endeavor.

This person needs a doctor and, as I said, I agree this complaint is not likely to be dive-related.
 
I am light headed almost every day of my life.

Seriously, long history of fainting. I think they finally said it was POTS. Sometimes I prefer not to have name for things...

It did start after a bout of Dengue fever....
 
"I think they finally said it was POTS"
Is that short for blonde?:rofl3:
Someone was gonna say it.....
 
Wildcard:
"I think they finally said it was POTS"
Is that short for blonde?:rofl3:
Someone was gonna say it.....
He beat me to it.
 
Boy, Mr. surgeon, you are too anal to be a surgeon. Are you sure you're not an internist??

Can't you take a joke about idiopathic?? I've been a physician long enough to know that I am an idiot when I don't know the answer.
 
To me, simple minded as I am, rule out mean that you've exhausted the patient's ability to pay.

So if they've got only 50 bucks, it means you're going to get my 5 cents worth.

If they've got good insurance, it means referal to 3 specialist, and $2000 worth of labs.

If you are asking opinion on Scubaboard, it means you're getting opinions from unlicensed, unqualified physicians who has got too much time on their hands and need to get away from their cranky wife.
 
fisherdvm:
To me, simple minded as I am, rule out mean that you've exhausted the patient's ability to pay.

So if they've got only 50 bucks, it means you're going to get my 5 cents worth.

If they've got good insurance, it means referal to 3 specialist, and $2000 worth of labs.

If you are asking opinion on Scubaboard, it means you're getting opinions from unlicensed, unqualified physicians who has got too much time on their hands and need to get away from their cranky wife.
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fisher, would you stop revealing professional secrets?

I agree with you -- idiopathic means we dunno. Viral mostly means we dunno. Nonspecific DEFINITELY means we dunno.

A lot of the time, we dunno. The nice thing about where I work is that I can tell the patient, "My job is to find the life-threatening problems, and the problems where bad complications are going to occur if it isn't diagnosed and treated before the next business day. Beyond that, it's your doctor's problem, and if you don't have one, we'll give you the name of who to call." Then I can let the poor primary care physician be the one to say, "We dunno."
 
TSandM:
Beyond that, it's your doctor's problem, and if you don't have one, we'll give you the name of who to call." Then I can let the poor primary care physician be the one to say, "We dunno."

So what happened to the days of old (well....30 years ago or so) when the family physician (or today's primary care) set broken bones, gave shots, did house calls, delivered babies, sewed up cuts, gave physicals to the school's sports teams, attended the high school football games in case of injury (whose son used to get away with speeding tickets etc because "Ole Doc" was the most respected man in town).....?
 

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