PADI Blue Log Book
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I make my own logbook pages on Excel. I sign off on my students on whatever book they have.
Ask that 'Instructor' to show you where PADI says you have to use a specific logbook.....
Ask that 'Instructor' to show you where PADI says you have to use a specific logbook.....
The blue book contains a dive record for training dives in it and are designed to go hand in hand with the training program that PADI has in place. It is however only an aid for the course and not a requirement. As others have said there is no real requirement for what type of log to use and what not to use. I never have owned the blue book but have never had a problem using the red ones.
Truth is most people including myself get lazy after so many dives and we dont log every single dive we do. We in fact begin to just say it was a great dive and leave it at that.
Truth is most people including myself get lazy after so many dives and we dont log every single dive we do. We in fact begin to just say it was a great dive and leave it at that.
Now new question related to same person........
Now my friend says they are only doing reciprocal navigation for his Advanced Open Water. I did that in basic open water, then advanced we had to do search patterns and actual navigation. He said the people that previously took open water with the instructor don't have to do navigation at all for advanced open water since they have already 'seen' their navigation skills. I'm not a PADI instructor, but am I missing something here? So far his instructor sounds pretty bad.
He also says the instructor is making him write directly in the PADI adventure diver book, and ripping the pages out. He claims PADI won't accept it if his knowledge review answers are written on a separate paper. I don't remember what I did in my class because it's been too many years. Opinions on that?
Now my friend says they are only doing reciprocal navigation for his Advanced Open Water. I did that in basic open water, then advanced we had to do search patterns and actual navigation. He said the people that previously took open water with the instructor don't have to do navigation at all for advanced open water since they have already 'seen' their navigation skills. I'm not a PADI instructor, but am I missing something here? So far his instructor sounds pretty bad.
He also says the instructor is making him write directly in the PADI adventure diver book, and ripping the pages out. He claims PADI won't accept it if his knowledge review answers are written on a separate paper. I don't remember what I did in my class because it's been too many years. Opinions on that?
Pretty much none of this is true. PADI does not even require that the shop keep copies of the knowledge reviews any more--either from the book or copies. You should definitely write to PADI about this. The navigation part is a standards violation, and they should be notified.
BTW, please make sure all of this is correct and not a misunderstanding. PADI will do an investigation, and you don't want to have them find out when they do that everything was actually OK.
How is it a violation, please be specific. Is there anywhere were you can reference this? Not doubting what you are saying at all, I just want to show my friend so he knows. Somewhere were PADI has it written down, like a reference to an instructor manual or something. I can't say a whole lot about his instructor, because I never met the guy. But my friend would probably want to make sure the guy is wrong before bringing it up to PADI. From his point, he is just hearing this from a friend who heard it from some guy on a forum.
First maybe your "friend" should be asking these questions
..The criteria for each dive is found at the end of its corresponding section in the AOW book. Also, the Instructor Manual (which I cant cut and paste) outlines for the instructor all requirements for each dive.
And concerning the knowledge reviews, your friend can ask the instructor to make a copy of the pages and keep those copies. But student keeps original for future reference and review. Reference him to the guide to teaching and the instructor manual...
Cheers,
Roger
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First maybe your "friend" should be asking these questions
He's new to diving, so he has no clue if what his instructor is doing is right or wrong. He's not a member of the forum. If by "friend" you are implying that it's me, it's not. I got my AOW certification 6 years ago, so this information doesn't really do much for me. I'm asking to make sure things didn't change or that I didn't miss something over the years.
Right here:
People are required to do more than reciprocal navigation for AOW, and you are not allowed to use what you did for OW excuse yourself from AOW skills.
here's the paraphrased version of the Navigation dive's performance requirements (from the Instructor Manual). Paraphrased only because i don't feeling like typing it all out.
-maintain neutral buoyancy
-determine distance using time and kick cycles
-swim to a location and back using natural navigation
-use a compass underwater to maintain a heading
-swim a reciprocal heading using a compass
-swim a square pattern underwater using a compass
some of those thing involve specific distances, but those aren't really relevant here. Not doing any of the above things is a standards violation.
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