PADI Bashers

[LIVES4SHARKS]

In closing, please consider this. You are very fortunate to live in the area you do. I would imagine that you dive year round in a shortie or thong(tongue in cheek) or something like that. It is easy for you to rack up dive after dive and gain more and more skill. I only have one month a year that I would even consider shedding a 7ml wetsuit or better. Because of this I will always be a less experienced diver than you. All I ask is don't be so quick to shoot the silly noobs down but rather help them to be better divers.

You are welcome to visit and hang with a fellow NOOB anytime down where the water is above freezing year round! (SORRY THIS IS A THONG FREE ZONE LOL!) Thank you for your thread! I think it is enlightening for alot of us out here. I just wish I had found scubaboard before I got my cert!

Take care and HAPPY DIVING!
Carolyn :sharks:

 

[Noob@40]

Thanks Carolyn
No thong here. I look bad enough in my wetsuit.

 

[LIVES4SHARKS]

Thanks Carolyn
No thong here. I look bad enough in my wetsuit.

Thanks I needed that!

Carolyn:sharks:

 

[SkullDeformity]

Carolyn that really sucks. I experience the same thing when I meet most divers unfamiliar with GUE. I don't lecture people, but people feel the need to lecture me on why I'm "doing it wrong." Boat operators telling me how everything I'm doing is crazy and wrong, LDS owner telling me I'm going to kill myself by not doing it exactly as he is. Sandwich Isle divers lost my business for good after my first boat dive with them the captain wouldn't leave me and my gear alone.

 

[jbd]

I think it's a leftover from when there were no BC's and the only way to be still was to be on the bottom. Now it's just a lazy way to teach, IMO. I don't do it any more.

Thats a very good point Neil!! Sort of makes me wonder if to some extent the overweighting of students couldn't also be a holdover from history for the same reason.

 

[waterpirate]

The real issue here is that who certified does not make a great diver. It is human nature to poke the other guy in the eye, and the diving community is FULL of ego. You can start diving anywhere, padi, ssi, the dmv, it really does not matter. Be your own diver, get additional training from people you choose, for the diving you want to do.
I frequently run into divers on boats who are card collectors, ego vendors, even instructors, all that means nothing. The true measure is where the tank hits the water.
my .02
Eric

 

[MikeFerrara]

Quote:
Originally Posted by neil
I think it's a leftover from when there were no BC's and the only way to be still was to be on the bottom. Now it's just a lazy way to teach, IMO. I don't do it any more.

Thats a very good point Neil!! Sort of makes me wonder if to some extent the overweighting of students couldn't also be a holdover from history for the same reason.

All true. The BC hasn't been fully integrated into training yet. It's stuck in there like it was an after thought.

Whenever we discuss training methods some of us are usually accused of wanting to bring back the old military type training or being elitist or wanting to exclude people. Nothing could be further from the truth. The methods that I think work best have never been mainstream. We're talking about going forward NOT backward. Teach the right stuff, the right way midwater where diving takes place and everything gets much easier NOT harder. Learning diving on your knees and then trying to go out diving midwater is HARD because you're trying to something you haven't been taught. Learning how to dive off the bottom and then going out and diving off the bottom is EASY because you have been taught how.

 

[SkullDeformity]

? mispost...

 

[Walter]

I assure you that my original post was tongue in cheek.

Thanks for misquoting me. Please fix your post.

 

[Thalassamania]

I dont think that equates to bashing either. But one cannot deny there is a very loud group of people here that bring NOTHING, and I mean ZERO, to scubaboard but their disdain to for the agencies.

Seriously, do the few individuals who steer every converstaion as to how much an agency sucks no matter what the issue count as bashing? Just curious. Some if these people have over 10,000 posts, and most of them are the same posts over and over and over. That is not an exaggeration.

I have said this before: it is a shame that is all they want to bring to such a wonderful resource as Scubaboard as they have so much more to offer divers than this.

Try this: check threads started for matts1w and what do you find, almost all adverts flogging stuff.

Do the same for me, not a single thread started contains an agency name.

Do the same for the other folks that you think matts1w is refering to as bringing "NOTHING, and I mean ZERO, to scubaboard but their disdain to for the agencies." What do you find? About the same as you did when you serched my threads.

Now do a search for the word “PADI” in all threads started in the last year. See any pattern? Just a conspicuous absence of those that matts1w refers to as bringing "NOTHING, and I mean ZERO, to scubaboard but their disdain to for the agencies."

I think that people you do nothing but post adds and crybaby about PADI bashing bring very little to the Scuba Board, but that's just my opinion.