OW Class in a BP/W.... PADI version

[TSandM]

I had it by the hose, right next to the second stage. And the point is a good one, that it was facing mouthpiece first toward the other diver, so a colored face plate wouldn't have helped.

I've never seen wet gloves in any color other than black . . . does somebody make them?

And I have to say that, in my experience, there ARE significant differences in the air-share drill with PADI vs. GUE, or if there is a different PADI procedure for the long hose, my instructors from my PADI shop don't know what it is. One of the things that kept getting in my way in this Rescue class was that I've practiced the S-drill so many times the way GUE teaches it that it's gotten more or less automatic, and I kept forgetting to modify the procedure to match what my Rescue instructors wanted me to do.

 

[kidspot]

Or a glove color other than black.

Glove color that contrasts the color of your drysuit helps with your buddy being able to see hand signals as well

Or better yet, dive in a place that doesn't need gloves where 30-50ft vis is a *bad* day diving. . .

Just trying to encourage TSandM and Peterguy to return to Maui soon ... they were both fun to dive with

Snowbear - back on topic ... would you say it takes longer to train divers in this fashion, or simply a different philosophy and meathodology? And if so, how much longer (on average, since every diver is very different) or how differently?

Aloha, Tim

 

[CD_in_Chitown]

I've never seen wet gloves in any color other than black . . . does somebody make them?

Usually the pretty colored ones are thinner but I'm sure they are out there.

Personally I haven't had any troubles since switching to the smurf gloves. Dry baby!

 

[TSandM]

I don't know that it takes any longer . . . NW Grateful Diver told me he had students doing their skills hovering by the 3rd pool session in his last OW class.

I don't need any ENCOURAGEMENT to go back to Maui . . . all I need is time off and money for airfare!

 

[StSomewhere]

So you've rigged your kit so that the "hi visibility" second stage is now your primary and on the long hose?

I did have the "hi visibility" cover on my primary and black on the backup, I've had blue and yellow covers for my TX50. Link to what my primary used to look like with under-the-arm routing.

But the fact is that I've dropped that in favor of basic black for both second stages. (I'm actually in the process of selling the blue and yellow covers to someone on TDS.) As I said, some people are confused by the fact that the longhose is just plain different, others have been taught "go for yellow", my position is that if you signal OOG I'll give you a working reg faster than you can figure out which one to grab.

Back to the original question, if I was teaching I probably would've kept the yellow or blue primary. But in a billion years I wouldn't teach scuba. So I'll rely on the predive briefing to cover any differences in gear between and my buddy-du-jour.

That generalization is total BS, hence this thread where a PADI OW instructor is discussing utilizing a hogarthian rig.

You know what, I totally agree. That's a completely fair critisism. I should've said the configuration many PADI, NAUI instructors are currently teaching... I'll edit the original. Thanks.

 

[Snowbear]

Just start emphasizing the important stuff from the beginning and it shouldn't take much more time. This instructor adds a 6th pool session, primarily to introduce the dry suit.

 

[CD_in_Chitown]

Link to what my primary used to look like with under-the-arm routing.

What length hose did you use with the swivel? My brother learned to dive from a caver in Tampa that sold him on a 36" hose with a swivel like that which was routed under the arm for OW diving. I really liked the way it fell down and away from the diver when it wasn't in use and the difficulty it caused him in doing reg sweeps.

 

[StSomewhere]

What length hose did you use with the swivel? My brother learned to dive from a caver in Tampa that sold him on a 36" hose with a swivel like that which was routed under the arm for OW diving. I really liked the way it fell down and away from the diver when it wasn't in use and the difficulty it caused him in doing reg sweeps.

IMO, for OW diving you'll need a 40" (or 1 meter) hose to route the primary under the right arm. The reg sweeps aren't difficult, they are just different (like the reg sweep for the long hose is also different) from what I was taught in my PADI OW class.

Of course combined with the bungeed backup you have another reg to go to, and you always know exactly where that is.

 

[diverryan]

Well, not everyone was comfortable.... one guy had a zipper that was not fully zipped and didn't say anything until the dive was over (~30 minutes). He dumped about 5 gallons of water out of each suit leg :11:

Yeoza....I have felt a little trickle of water down my back before and hated it....I could only imagine how cold it was for him