Out of Air at 84 ft

[jonnythan]

Dutch, even though it's a quarry, has a ton of stuff that's cool to look at you won't normally see anywhere else. Giant helicopter, a plane, a tanker, school bus, yadda yadda.. and it's way too big to see everything on one or even two dives.

The best part is the east end though.. all the industrial remains of a big pumping station. Very surreal.

So yeah, it's a quarry, but it's definitely a cool place to visit once or twice a year.

 

[Far_X]

Dutch Springs, fresh water, quarry diving, holds NO allure for me. I think I'd do a cold water, wreck dive on Long Island before that. Not sure.

Just curious, what is it that you like about diving? I did Dutch for the first time in October - hell, it was date and sometimes you have to make sacrifices Now I can't imagine me going there every week but it was okay. It would be a great place to practice skills at depth without having to worry about current and poor visibility. Some of the fresh water dives in Florida are great and I have only done a handful of those. I would move to Florida for those alone - ok, the caves are really what are enticing me!!

 

[Far_X]

That was in late Spring in NY. It is now in the 40s here too now

...and I can't wait to do my rescue diving check outs tomorrow and Sunday...LOL. Well, really, I can wait to down that first dram of port!!!

 

[simbrooks]

Dutch Springs, fresh water, quarry diving, holds NO allure for me. I think I'd do a cold water, wreck dive on Long Island before that. Not sure.

As Jonnythan and Far_X have mentioned, there is plenty to see and its a great place to transfer your skills over from the warm water, lots of viz you are used to down to less viz and cold water without the current or other task loading of being on a wreck. Dont run before you can walk, that would be a big jump to go from the Carribbean to wreck diving off the NE coast! I was personally a little put out that i couldnt dive Dutch when i went up to NY this may/june, i was hoping to get a little cold water, low viz quarry diving in - YMMV though

But i will state again, it could be a great place for you to crossover your skills from one environment to another in smaller steps with time to practice. Like i said before, there are plenty of divers who frequent that quarry who wreck dive all the time as well, but use it for practice, i am sure you can hook up with them if you ask around. I would prefer to know what your diving style is in a lake/quarry etc before doing off the coast with someone new who hasnt got much, if any, experience in those conditions.

 

[RonFrank]

That is a pretty big claim against our UP! I cant see UP totting a spareair around for any reason, but it appears in his early days he had an experience with spare air that we could all learn from!

These are they types of stories that I love to read, and learn from. I, for one, am very pleased that the Board keeps the entire historical content online. I came across that a while back, and it's definitely something for the books.

Ron

 

[simbrooks]

These are they types of stories that I love to read, and learn from. I, for one, am very pleased that the Board keeps the entire historical content online. I came across that a while back, and it's definitely something for the books.

Ron

But we would prefer to lock them and stop people from posting back and ressurecting some of them with new flame wars (spare air is always a flamable subject ).

 

[pilot fish]

Dutch, even though it's a quarry, has a ton of stuff that's cool to look at you won't normally see anywhere else. Giant helicopter, a plane, a tanker, school bus, yadda yadda.. and it's way too big to see everything on one or even two dives.

The best part is the east end though.. all the industrial remains of a big pumping station. Very surreal.

So yeah, it's a quarry, but it's definitely a cool place to visit once or twice a year.

Hmmmm. While it is not in some tropical clime, it is diving. I hear it's crowded though?

 

[pilot fish]

Just curious, what is it that you like about diving? I did Dutch for the first time in October - hell, it was date and sometimes you have to make sacrifices Now I can't imagine me going there every week but it was okay. It would be a great place to practice skills at depth without having to worry about current and poor visibility. Some of the fresh water dives in Florida are great and I have only done a handful of those. I would move to Florida for those alone - ok, the caves are really what are enticing me!!

Will rethink it.thanks

 

[pilot fish]

As Jonnythan and Far_X have mentioned, there is plenty to see and its a great place to transfer your skills over from the warm water, lots of viz you are used to down to less viz and cold water without the current or other task loading of being on a wreck. Dont run before you can walk, that would be a big jump to go from the Carribbean to wreck diving off the NE coast! I was personally a little put out that i couldnt dive Dutch when i went up to NY this may/june, i was hoping to get a little cold water, low viz quarry diving in - YMMV though

But i will state again, it could be a great place for you to crossover your skills from one environment to another in smaller steps with time to practice. Like i said before, there are plenty of divers who frequent that quarry who wreck dive all the time as well, but use it for practice, i am sure you can hook up with them if you ask around. I would prefer to know what your diving style is in a lake/quarry etc before doing off the coast with someone new who hasnt got much, if any, experience in those conditions.

Very good points and solid ideas. Will put it back on my dive list. Is it a drysuit dive or a 7 mil wet?

 

[Mr. Brown/Scuba]

1. The reason lots are going on and on about prevetion of this ooa is that it should never get to this point. If YOU allow YOURSELF to get into this situation or think you could, you might want to rethink the whole diving thing......OK
2. If you pick a leader before the dive and have a predive planning with your buddy..are we going to be 3' 5' 6' apart??. side by side or heel to mask??.....OK
3. If a buddy leaves you.....then it's YOUR job to follow......85' is not the time to have a conversation about the buddy system......OK
4. If YOU let YOUR buddy get 30ft away......in good vis and no current then that's were you would go...OK
5. Did'nt you do an 50ft underwater breathhold swim in OW??
a 40ft horizontal esa (confined)??
6. Can YOU swim 30ft with gear and fins and no gas? NO, time to rethink scuba then.

Just becuase a DM buddies you with someone does not mean YOU must dive with them....This problem should have been solved long before YOU got in the water...OK