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The mentioned link to BAUE, that has DIR/GUE written all over it, of course they are going have nothing good to say about bungeed wings. You notice that can't support their statements with any facts or independent testing. Anytime someone tells me their way is the only right way to do something I'm skeptical.
 
ColdH20diving wrote...
The mentioned link to BAUE, that has DIR/GUE written all over it, of course they are going have nothing good to say about bungeed wings. You notice that can't support their statements with any facts or independent testing. Anytime someone tells me their way is the only right way to do something I'm skeptical.
And I'm skeptical of any product a marketing department comes up with.

But I wasn't focusing on the bungee wings above - you can take that up with Roakey if you like ;) - but rather wing sizing.

Do you believe that DIR/GUE is wrong when it states the following?

Double low pressure steel 104s, two aluminum 40 stage tanks, trilaminate drysuit:
The breathing gas could weigh up to 27lbs (although probably less due to using helium mixes). For the sort of dive where this equipment configuration would typically be used we want to be able to maintain neutral buoyancy without dropping any weights even if the drysuit completely floods (loses all of its lift). Most divers find that a wing in the 55lb range works well.
We don't need extra wing lift to bring up a heavy object from the bottom; this is dangerous since if you drop the object the extra gas in your wing will send you rocketing toward the surface. It is safer to use a lift bag instead.

If you're not carrying this much gear, why would you need anything bigger?
 
I personally spoke to as many OMS bungee wing owners BEFORE I ever decided to even try one. No one and I mean no one, had ANY problems at all with their wings. Everyone who had them loved them, and a few of these guys had some pretty impressive dives under their belts andweb sites sporting all the wrecks they dove donning OMS wings to prove it. Deep wrecks. Deco dives. Serious stuff.

Like this one:

http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Valley/3422/


Go look at the pics...all you'll see is 100# bungeed wings.

Thats good enough for me.

As an earlier poster said, "To each is his/her own."

Ain't America great?
 
metridium once bubbled...
And I'm skeptical of any product a marketing department comes up with.

But I wasn't focusing on the bungee wings above - you can take that up with Roakey if you like ;) - but rather wing sizing.

Do you believe that DIR/GUE is wrong when it states the following?

IMO, I think it's a bad idea to use one's wing to lift objects, I agree that's what lift bags are for. most of us have watched people bring lost objects to the surface ie; wt belts, without using a lift bag. I sure wouldn't want to drop it while on my ascent. On the other hand I don't think using the very least amount of lift is a good idea either.
 
ColdH20diving wrote...
On the other hand I don't think using the very least amount of lift is a good idea either.
I can understand that, though from some of the other examples on that page it looks like there's some excess capacity already built in.

What I don't understand is why, even if you do want some extra lift just in case, you would want to increase it by almost double? Using steel stages, or numerous AL stages?
 
Guess that's sort of an individual need depending upon the amount of gear one carries and diving environment. I calculated the neg buoyancy of all my gear and then added a little for the unexpected. At some point I would like to have a 2nd wing for diving with a single tank.
 
metridium once bubbled...
Did you see the article on wing sizing above the one you mentioned?

Yes sir I did. I don't own a dry suit. And if my wife has problems with her BP/Wing I have every intention of lifting her and me to the surface with that little ol 100Lbs bungied wing. Better to have to much lift than not enough.

I see some of you are mentioning DIR again. I use NAUI and TDI for my training so you will have to excuse me if I am blissfully ignorant of DIR's mandatory requirements.

-Master Stroke (aka accident waiting to happen)

PS I love split fins, force fins, dive PO2's of 1.6+, and don't have a 7ft hose...unless you count the fuel line between my engine and the gas tank on my truck.
 

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