Notifying the team

[DiverLaura]

ya, i like overinformation as opposed to underinformation... I'll let my buddy know if anything changes from the beginning of the dive, (suit leak, i realize something is different, etc...) because as a team, there is some 'need to know', they are depending on me to be/act/do the way i've been the past X number of dives, and if, say, suit is leaking, etc.. i'm not always as tuned in to the team needs (just little things like watching their backs, etc...) if i'm getting chilled to the bone. I like to give them the option to call the dive as well because, my gas/gear/brain is their backup gas/gear/brain.

on similar lines,

I have always recommended to students, buddies, etc.. to do that final reading of gas (the one you base your rockbottom and turn pressures on) after doing the first part of the GUE-EDGE (or whatever your pre-dive checklist is) mostly cause up here in the northwest, in the summer, you can loose literally hundreds of PSI out of your tank just going from a hot car trunk to 48 degree diving environment. So the timing of the Gas planning in the GUE-EDGE is perfect to let the tank cool down (or warm up?) to the temperature that matters

 

[Peter Guy]

Re the analysis issue -- that was MY primary fault with Lynne as a secondary "faultee."

We had just gotten the tank from a friend who had an analysis tape on them (% but not pressure). I analyzed the tank and saw it was what was stated on the tape (+/- a tenth or two) so didn't alter the tape (or put a new on it). My fault. And since I knew what was in the tank, I just didn't think to mention it to Lynne when she grabbed it -- what she saw was what was in it.

My guess is that we all have someone we "trust with our life" who, if they do an analysis, we just accept it. Me, I trust Lynne and I know she trusts me (I have life insurance, she doesn't -- hmmmmm).

 

[PfcAJ]

Too much thinking about diving and not actually diving.

 

[rjack321]

The only reason I started this thread was that the person leading the dive was perturbed with me for failing to tell him I had less gas than he thought, and I wondered if his opinion would be general or specific to him.

He'll use any excuse to get perturbed with you in particular.

Other than the question of analysis, communicating every little detail to the "captain" for review and approval is annoying, gets in the way of fun, and bogs down the team. You were trained to a high standard and supposedly have good judgement. I would expect you to exercise your brain and decide what information-wise needs to be shared and what needs to be filed away for discussion afterwards. To me only have 2x as much gas as your little mouse lungs need would fall into the "not important now" category.

 

[rongoodman]

"little mouse lungs" just got an out-loud chuckle from me. I know someone like that too.

 

[LiteHedded]

He'll use any excuse to get perturbed with you in particular.

Other than the question of analysis, communicating every little detail to the "captain" for review and approval is annoying, gets in the way of fun, and bogs down the team. You were trained to a high standard and supposedly have good judgement. I would expect you to exercise your brain and decide what information-wise needs to be shared and what needs to be filed away for discussion afterwards. To me only have 2x as much gas as your little mouse lungs need would fall into the "not important now" category.

absolutely
if you flashed me and communicated this stuff to me, no big deal. but it's not something I need to know to carry on a dive like this

 

[piikki]

This is the DIR forum. Isn't there a DIR answer to this question?
I can't believe it depends on team mates' personalities and preferences. Does not sound very DIR that it depends on nature of the dive or each individual's (separate) analysis of the level of the dive in question either when one is training for other responses to carry over all conditions.

 

[LiteHedded]

This is the DIR forum. Isn't there a DIR answer to this question?
I can't believe it depends on team mates' personalities and preferences. Does not sound very DIR that it depends on nature of the dive or each individual's (separate) analysis of the level of the dive in question either when one is training for other responses to carry over all conditions.

the fundamentals answer is to tell the team immediately i'm sure

 

[Rainer]

The DIR answer is to use your brain.

If the information isn't going to affect the dive, no need to relay it. If it's pertinent, go ahead.

This all sounds like a lot of mental masturbation...

 

[piikki]

The DIR answer is to use your brain.

I'd be willing to bet some money that if this was the DIR answer to everything, there'd be not too much going on that most of us would view as 'standard'