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oleras:
75+f ......i would be in my birthday suit !! LoL......diving last week off the N.W coast, got a 'tad over 7c, which at a rough estimate~45f....not too bad though, 7mm two piece, B.T of about 40min on both dives to 28m....cant wait for a warm water dive ! you guys are so lucky, although maybe better to dive cold, appreciate a moderate climate all the more !!!!!

You said it!
Diving in a 7 mm myself (one piece) and sometimes dive in water of 6 to 9 degrees. It really makes you appreciate the warm tropical water, the 'few' moments you're diving in such waters...
Maybe it's an advantage even. If you're used to diving in cold water, then warm water makes it all easier, better than the other way around, right?

Ramon
 
hanlyb:
What is the consensus on wearing a shorty vs. a full suit for warm water dives? Could a 3mm shorty be used as an inner layer for extra warmth on a cold water dive?

Shorties...?! I wish I didn't own one! I see people wear them alone because they don't think the water & weather are cold enough for a long, and I see them come back with scrapes. Carry a good first aid kit if you wear a shorty, as currents surprise almost all divers.

However, your idea of wearing one under a long suit is fine. For less money you can buy a under-vest, but if you already own the shorty - fine.

don
 
I think it all depends on your tolerance of cold water (at 75 it's definetly warm IMHO). But first, a question before I put in my two cents. You are asking about your checkout dives. Well where have you been diving so far. I imagine you have taken some class instruction in a pool, right? Are you cold in the pool? What temperature is that? That should be the determinig factor for both of you. You can count on getting colder the deeper you go, which shouldn't be too deep on your open water dives.

My last piece of advice, is cover your body even if your just wear a skin suit. As a newbie, your going to unintentionally touch coral with a part of your body. It's better for both your health and the corals if you don't touch it with your bare skin. On the same note, I'm a big fan of gloves. Ideally you shouldn't touch anything but your going to and it's good to protect yourself.

-Ken
 
You're certainly getting very good views here, and not to discredit any of them, but perhaps you should get the viewpoint of someone who dives the keys on a regular basis.

First, and strictly IMO, renting a wetsuit is like renting your toothbrush, using some stranger's hair brush, borrowing your neighbor's underwear. So that being said, buy your wetsuit. As far as your 12 yr old, yes, they grow quick; my 14 yr old daughter grows like a weed, however, my 12 yr old boy, grows a bit slower, and things last him a bit longer. Nevertheless, if you're planning on diving often, you're more than likely going to end up spending as much on wetsuit rental for your kid as you would if you purchased his wetsuit, and by purchasing it, you're not giving up on the hygene factor. Check out diversdirect.com. They usually have good deals on kids wetsuits, and you should pass by one, maybe two of their stores on the way to the keys (Florida City and Key Largo).

As far as the temperature is concerned, here in So. Fla. most divers have a 3mm as standard equipment, and when it gets colder, usually a beanie hood and a 2mm vest does the trick. Just last weekend, I dove in 71 degrees with my 3mm, a beanie, and a 2mm vest, and the dive was 73 mins. Two years ago, however, while diving the reef known as dry rocks, where the statute of the "Christ of the Abyss" stands, I dove with just my 3mm, no hood, no vest, in 72 degrees and after 20 mins I was done.

If the water is 75 degrees, the 3mm suit, especially a new one, should do it. But, if in doubt, get a 3mm wetsuit with a 2mm hooded vest and wear the vest under the suit and you should be good to go. If you use the vest/beanie combo, the vest can usually be worn outside, if it zips in the front. Warm reef gloves (2mm) usually do the trick also, but leave the full foot fins at home; get some booties and open heel fins.

Just my .02 worth.

BTW, with whom are you doing your dives? One thing you want to keep in mind, in the keys, 3 - 5 ft waves will create enough surge to keep you busy while doing skills, even at 25' depth. Reefs like Molasses, Snapers ledge, and French's are very good for check out dives. Dry rocks is ok, but it must be dived at high tide, because if you dive it at low tide, you'll see why it is called dry rocks. If you dive dry rocks, DON'T TOUCH THE STATUTE.. it is covered with fire coral. :zap1: If you can, try and to the Bendwood or the City of Washington...two very old wrecks (I think 19th or early 20th century). If you go to the City of Washigton, there is a resident 300 lbs Jewfish that might just come and say hi.

Semper safe,


Rick :bounce:
 
All the above are good info. If your just starting out ( sounds like you've spent a bundle) Divers Direct has some good wet suits at an affordable price. You might even be able to rent one for your son.

Yes, It is a shame you did not get on the board sooner. "We" would definitely given you a variety of opinions. At least now you know where to come for " Real " advice now. Good luck on your diving and do it safely.


Joe
 
jriderski:
All the above are good info. If your just starting out ( sounds like you've spent a bundle) Divers Direct has some good wet suits at an affordable price.

Yep - the Water World Sports I mentioned earlier is part of Divers Direct; they also have a store under that name there.

I order from them, paying for freight but saving sales taxes. For a wetsuit, though, since you'll be there, I'd like to try it on...

don
 
Some good advice showing up here. At 75F, depending on your tolerance for cold, you're probably on the lower edge of comfort for a 3mm full wetsuit. If you'll be diving in colder water on a regular basis, you should probably get a 5mm, but since you're in Atlanta (diving any fresh water during the summer?), I suspect that a 3mm full is exactly what the doctor ordered. I'd look at a Henderson for yourself, and something cheaper for your growing son (do you have Academy Sports in Atlanta?). At any rate, have fun!
 
If you're going to do much spring diving, you may want to consider a 7mm.
There is a lot of discussion on two-piece, one piece, etc; I wear my 7 shorty and a dive skin when in warmer water and wear the whole she-bang when in cooler or cold water. Everyone has a difference temp tolerance and until you've been there, you won't know what will make you comfortable. Good luck!
 
Body Glove do a very good two peace semi dry.

5mm all in one with back zip entry,
5mm shorty front zip entry, that goes over the top when it is cold. (comes with a great hood too)

They can be warn independently or both together, this kind of setup gives you far more scope and flexibility for thermal protection.

As for me I stick with a dry-bag all year round.. good old UK temps..
:thinkingo
 
Welcome to the wonderfull world of scuba, as you see there are all kind of options and opinions, not only on this matter but on almost everything related. There are not right or wrong answers, just options, with many factors to consider: you (fitness, subsceptibility, money...), and the kind of diving you´ll do. You say the water will be around 70-75, that´pretty warm, but if you get hooked (what is pretty common ;)) you might want to dive in cooler waters. I think 5mm are more versatil, you won´t be hot in warm waters.
Another factor to think about is the frecuency on a one-day basis, I meen that if I dive 3-4 times a day in warm water I prefer 5mm, and if I dive once I´ll use a 3mm or thinner.
I don´t know how wealthy you are, but I don´t think you want to by a new suit to your son every 6-9 months, I´ve used borrowed or rented suits without problems. They can be washed properly. Depending on how often you finally dive, I would buy used suits for him or either rent them.
MY 2 cents.
Have fun and think well before spending money and talk to nearby divers.
 

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