New trend on Octo attachment

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So, at my open water course this was actually the taught method of securing your octo. It's also recommended by James from Scuba diver magazine, IIRC. I don't prefer it (I have a silicon holder that slots around the mouthpiece which came with my BCD, and one of those necklace things for my primary), but imo, I don't think it's doing much damage. Hoses are meant to bend, and so long as it's under pressure, it shouldn't kink too much.
 
I actually think this hose-looping method is probably safer than the methods that hold onto the mouthpiece. I'd hate to have an actual Out Of Air situation and in a panicked moment have the mouthpiece pulled off of the octo. Or even a lesser situation, have the in-and-out of setting up the octo each time wear a (hard to see) tear in the mouthpiece where it breathed wet while under stress (yes, this could be largely mitigated by mindful inspection/maintenance).

That said, I loop my octo hose through a silicone holder lower on my BCD, and not through a hard D-ring higher up. Works for me and has never come loose so far.
 
The hose will not be unduly harmed. Hoses (should) be replaced every 5 years IMO. This is not a new trend, I have seen this since the octopus became standard in the 80s. Nothing new here. Very common for rental gear. I actually hate it because it is just a kludge/farm tech way of securing a second stage.

My skin has been wrinkling on my body for 70 years and it still protects my innards, the wrinkled hose outer skin will be just fine.
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I mostly use a variation of long hose primary but if I were to revert to standard rigging (octopus) then I would still necklace the secondary, it is just that the secondary is on the long hose rather than the short hose. I would, as did my wife for many years, use a fisherman slip knot on the mouthpiece. Cinched up it holds securely and releases with an easy pull for donation. And the second stage is always where you would expect it to be rather than looped though various places or dragging across the bottom.



And yes, I did shorten up her necklace, it is a little long there. Little people need little things :wink:.
 
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