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jgarysmith

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Just bought a LP121 new steel tank. I hope I made the right choice. I wanted a tank that would give me the max time I could get diving wrecks at 100 to 120 ft with out going to doubles. I uae a Mares semi dry Isotherm suit. Did I make the rright choice. I have a steel HP100, which I love and was conflicted about buying a 120hp instead. I haven't been getting full 3500 fills which doesn't give me the 100 CI of air. Did I make the right choice? What other suggestions are there? :dazzler1:
 
Thanks,
Thats what I wanted. I breath alot of air. Will use it on deeper dives. I stilll have my HP100 that is a great tank for other dives.
 
Nice..Bigger is Better..I dive 100's and 120's and duals. I can take a nap underwater now...I have reached ZEN breathing..
 
jgarysmith:
Just bought a LP121 new steel tank. I hope I made the right choice. I wanted a tank that would give me the max time I could get diving wrecks at 100 to 120 ft with out going to doubles. I uae a Mares semi dry Isotherm suit. Did I make the rright choice. I have a steel HP100, which I love and was conflicted about buying a 120hp instead. I haven't been getting full 3500 fills which doesn't give me the 100 CI of air. Did I make the right choice? What other suggestions are there? :dazzler1:


From reading your post, and reading a bit between the lines, I'm sensing that you're somewhat new to the sport, or at least not a frequent diver.

That 121 when filled to 3000 to 3200# gets you close to 150cft .... That's a massive amount of backgas .. you can get into some really deep ka-ka with that much gas and little knowledge/understanding of how to properly manage it.

When diving air in that 100 to 120' range, most intermediate level and up divers run out of NDL before they run low on gas, and that's with an 80cft tank. If you're on Ean with it's increased NDL, then an 80 is a bit on the small side, I agree, especially if maxing the bottom time as you describe for a relatively square profile like a wreck. But not by a lot.

If you're experiencing low gas volume problems with your 100, even if it's filled to a bit less than 100cft, Especially, if it's on air! and you're within NDL's, You really need to be working on your sac rate and overall skills and experience as your first priority, save the wrecks and deeper, more advanced dives for when you find yourself limited by NDL, not PSI anymore.

120+ cft of gas can get even a major hoover into more deco than they'd ever imagine. The big risk being you don't have enough gas left to satisfy all your deco obligation. ... not to mention everyone's back on the boat, and you still owe 30 more minutes hangtime.

As far as the LP121, it's a great tank, I've got the Faber version, and it's nice and light empty, good for me, since I dive wet here. It trims easily and requires about the same weighting as an al80. It's the only "single" tank I own .... although I never use it for a single dive. Decently filled, it lasts as long as 2 80's.... I only have to blend once, and don't have to switch over on a rocking boat.

Hang onto the one you got, someday you'll put it to good use. To Need That much gas for a single NDL dive points to other more primary issues to tackle. If you're thinking of using it for longer deco dives, then that points to other issues. (nothing you said points towards deco training, or equipment configs for some level of redundancy)

I'm sure there will be many opinions to follow, but I'll bet most echo similar thoughts.

Homework first, then dive ....

Darlene
 
Darlene,
Thank you for your comments. They are all things to consider and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I left out the fact that I also dive nitrox which will also give a little more bottom time, which with the 121 will probably get me into deco trouble just like you said.
I am fairly new, about 40 dives, but really trying tgo get the most out of it which is why I wanted the larger single tank instead of going to doubles right now.Wanted to get more dives and experience before venturing into double territory.
What did you mean by the 121 is the only single you own, when do you use it? Are you usually using doubles?

Thanks again, you made me think of some things I had not thought about. The tank is also a Faber like yours.
 
Darlene,
Jusr re read your post and realized you used your 121 for 2 dives instead of switching tanks with 80's. Answered my own question.
Garyb
 
If Your Physically Fit and can handle the Container Size of air for Your life support. Nothing wrong with having Extra..and I'm always happy to surface with over 1000 psi left. It doesn't cost Me anymore. Watch Your computer and Your training as vixen said..I agree. But don't be afraid to hit the Blue and watch every chapter of the Godfather underwater. NDL..just a Crutch ;)
 
.....my 1st 2 tanks were (and still are) a pair of Faber 120's........I'm a hoover too......but lately I've downsized a bit, diving HP 120's/HP 130's/LP112's........the LP 120's are just too long to be comfortable diving, so I've pretty much retired them......just to cumbersome given my height/weight.

For longer/deeper dives I've gone to small doubles (LP85's and LP 76's...one set of each) ......they're even heavier than a single LP120, but their lengths are much more managable for me.

The LP 120 is a great tank, as long as you are prepared to handle it's bulk......I eventually decided to drop down one size...I think the better balance/comfort in the water probably gains me as much or more air than continuing on with my LP120's.

...if you're doing long/deep dives on your LP120, you might consider getting H or Y-valves installed so at least you can have redundant 1st-stages.

Karl
 

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