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they way some of you guys talk I should have died years ago!!!
I dove for probably 10 years before I was ever certified! got all of my gear at a garage sale. the "vintage" stuff no BC just a back pack and a regulator (no pressure gauge just a "J" valve) not even a depth gauge (someone else beat me to it!) ("friends" that would fill tanks for me)
so yes I did dive to (not in a pool either) to 25 and even 50 feet before I was ever "certified" and there wasn't an internet to tell me that I would die if I did so (that is probably why I am still alive!!!)
but I have to agree if you are that concerned (I wouldn't be) jump in the pool with dad and have fun! I have even let my dad play in the pool with my gear (and he isn't certified either!)
 
Who knows what he would or would not do in the pool?

I simply can not see where it wouldn't be better just to convince Dad to leave the pool alone until the classes are done.


I do agree that it would be better if he left it alone until he were certified. However, the world is likely not going crash down in 8 feet of water if he jumps in after two pool and classroom sessions. If this were truly an issue, the son, who is supposed to know "all that a certified diver should know" would get off his butt and watch over him since he knows damn well he is not going to convince him to not do it. It is 8' of water folks. Things can happen but with someone watching closely, you mitigate almost all the risk.....that is kind of what pool sessions are for. The big difference is that he will not be doing any skills on this dive.....it is simply sinking to the bottom, crawling round and breathing.
 
Well something else came up so this thread it pretty much moot.
I'm making a follow up thread if any of you are interested.
 
Hang on a sec, I've got to get my climbing gear on if I'm gonna attempt this molehill.

Dad will be fine.

And to the poster that suggested that because the dad didn't have a weight belt that he would not be going anywhere: My instructor class rescue buddy absolutely sucked. 0% body fat, would immediately sink in his 7mil wetsuit as soon as I took off his BC. Got all the girls' attention immediately anywhere we went. If he didn't own a dive shop in the carribean, I'd hate him.
 
Someone should read the details regarding JYC's first dive...

From "The Silent World":

"One morning in June 1943, I went to a railway station at Bandolon on the French Riviera to collect a wooden case expressed from Paris. In it was a new and promising device... We hurried to a sheltered cove which would conceal our activity from curious bathers and Italian occupation troops...My friends harnessed the three cylinder block on my back... I looked into the sea with the same sense of trespass that I have felt on every dive... I went down to sixty feet. We had been there many times without breathing aids, but we did not know what happened below that boundary. How far could we go with this stange device?"

and he wasn't even certified yet!!!
 
I don't really get the reluctance here at all. Let the guy play in the pool. If he really is a good swimmer and he knows not to hold his breath the only thing that's likely to happen is that he'll get more familiar with his equipment and become a better diver. It's not like he's talking about doing deep air dives or wreck penetration.

As for the old 80's gear, that stuff wasn't cheap back in the day and most of it was made to last a lifetime.
 
Only thing I get from that article is the person didnt listen very well. Broke the first rule of scuba, when breathing from your reg, always keep your airway open / dont hold your breath.


Just showing him that sometimes **** happens-----& maybe his dad is a poor listener, maybe even deaf........
 
Bottom line... he changed your diapers so he's not going to listen to you - period.
He's going to do what he wants, so you can join in on the fun, sit back and watch, or leave him to fend for himself.
 

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