Need Advice/Intervention

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If you are really worried about him, why don't you put his other set of gear on and help him.

 

[Paladin]

FWIW, I just put 8ft into my eRDPML. (LOL) - Your NDL will be 205 minutes with no safety stop required.

There is no NDL for 20 ft or less. At that depth, as per the Navy tables, bottom time is unlimited. PADI just arbitrarily treats all shallow dives as if they are at 35 ft.

 

[gfyrasng]

Dude, seriously, it's 8 freaking feet. Show him how to ditch his weight belt, and start earning some money to pay him back.

 

[Herk_Man]

If your dad has survived all the things life has thrown at him so far, going for a dive in 8' of water with 2 pool sessions under his belt is not going to be a problem. CESA? Really? How about stand up and push off.

Jim's right. You're dad's a big boy and you're still a kid (and will be until you're in your 30's.) Let him have his fun.

 

[g1138]

The point of pointing our the CESA was not so he would do it but to show that he really doesn't know much about diving yet. I don't think he's ready, bottom line is my opinion.
I would NOT want him to be my buddy if we had to do a dive today.
Further more I do believe he is serious about scrubbing the pool.
And I do understand that although the gear he bought me was a gift, it is still his gear since he paid for it.
But that's not the case.
If everyone truly thinks it's not a big deal then ok I'll agree with that.

So lets say I do go in with him. I do not want to dive alone, under no circumstances, 8ft pool or 80ft open water. So if I brief him and we go in together how should I do it.
Scrub the pool with my back turned while he frolics around, or watch him like a hawk while he does it.
Keep in mind he has only had 2 pool sessions, and what I believe is very little knowledge of his gear.

 

[jonnythan]

This is scuba diving in a pool. My former club held "try out scuba" pool sessions all the time where we'd toss people in with gear and about 5 minutes of 'training.' Everyone had a blast and no one ever died.

It's not bomb disarmament. He's not going to blow up if he touches the regulator wrong.

 

[knowone]

Leave him alone.
Do you get it yet.
You have already been answered.
This is why he does what he does.

 

[RJP]

Just tonight however, he brought back a full scuba set from his pool session,

The LDS he's going with is an oddball as well. It's literally a one man shop in Berkeley...

Anyone else have a problem with a shop giving a non-certified dive a tank and gear to bring home?

Yikes!

 

[g1138]

Anyone else have a problem with a shop giving a non-certified dive a tank and gear to bring home?

Yikes!

Looking back my shop did the same thing. And I took my basic at a different LDS.
Both my LDS and my dad's uses a public high school pool and both had pool sessions that ended after the shop's closing time.
I gather that some shops do this and some don't by the lack of response to this topic.

 

[RJP]

Looking back my shop did the same thing. And I took my basic at a different LDS.
Both my LDS and my dad's uses a public high school pool and both had pool sessions that ended after the shop's closing time.
I gather that some shops do this and some don't by the lack of response to this topic.

Shop I DM for has a pool on site, so not an issue/question there, but I can't imagine taking on the liability of handing over gear to someone...

a.) Not yet certified
b.) Not completely trained
b.) Just itching to use it

Can see not wanting to lug the tanks around, but I'd at least take back the regs so they couldn't use the tanks for anything.