Near-DIR diving: Are there DIR things you would probably never do?

[BarryNL]

Ahh the natives, Barry, the natives! See what you have caused?

Heh. If I was a troll, I'd be a damn good one, huh?

I see the thread got moved which is a bit of a shame because I really did want to get some DIR reasoning on my points, though admittedly I think I already got it and I'm still not convinced.

I suppose we're into the area where I can concede that the DIR guys have valid reasons for their configuration choices but I think there are also valid reasons for doing it another way. I think, for the diving I do, my reasons make more sense.

In my industry (IT) we have a way to spot BSing salesman. Ask them where their products are not suitable - if they say it's suitable for all cases you know they're just giving you saleswaffle. I get a similar feeling about some aspects of DIR.

 

[CompuDude]

I think this thread would get more exposure in the root tech forum rather than the tech\hog forum.

*shrug*

 

[BarryNL]

Sorry, but a wristslate is never going to be so much better that I need to bring it AND wetnotes. The latter will do just fine. It cracks me up that you think you need both.

Really? For deco dives I take my planned deco schedule on my wrist slate. My backup schedules go in my wetnotes. With thick neoprene or even dry gloves I really don't want to be fiddling about with wetnotes unless I have to.

 

[KMD]

Like I said before, you would be immensely better off with an FFM with voice features instead.

Sorry

This one time, this guy wearing a FFM was rude to me. And another time, they were all arogant and excluded me from the club becuase I didnt have a FFM. Then they wouldnt let me dive with them because I didnt have a FFM with voice features. This was even though they were only diving on a reef 20' deep. They acted like they were all hot stuff and I was something they scraped off the back of their fins. So in my personal experience all FFM divers are arrogant jerks so I will never *ever* use or try a FFM. In fact I make it a point to go to any and all FFM forums just so I can tell them my point of view. Because if only I can save just *ONE* diver from their evil clutches, my life's mission will be complete.

 

[rjack321]

How 2 computers, wetnotes and a slate, dual bladders, stages all over the place and all this other Xmas tree junk even meets the Hogarthian definition of minimalist I dunno. But at least this is out of the DIR forum, phewww

 

[Adobo]

Its in the do whatever the heck you like forum.

You just figured that out? Even the DIR forum is a "do whatever the heck you like forum.

 

[John_B]

Well I think its a mistake to allow an obvious troll thread to silt up the place and then have doc take the easy way out and move it after 79 posts. If anything the thread should just be locked, or maybe moved to a separate troll forum. But it does no good to have a no troll forum, allow nearas and barry and the others troll up the place for a day, and then just move it to the hog forum without taking account the context of the thread. Doc, your insights are spot on, except that I think you dropped the ball on this one.

If the DIR forum isn't going to be opt in, there should be a way to opt certain users out who obviously aren't interested in a DIR answer. What they need is their own "We hate DIR" forum, but my guess is that it would be popular for about three days until they realized there was nobody to take the bait.

There, now maybe you can move the whole damned thread to the whine and cheese forum.

 

[Doc Intrepid]

Yeah, I suck, I know.

But I was busy today, and didn't log on until after all you argumentative types were flinging dung with abandon.

And CompuDude, the thread might get a buttload more exposure in any number of different forums, but I took a chance that Barry was not a huge troll and moved it to Hogarthian. Bill (Hogarth) Main, Tom Mount, George Irvine, and many of the rest of the luminaries who originally set up the debate were all active in the early 1990s, and their respective concepts obviously differ but they grew from the same root ideas...which involved safer cave diving. Hogarthian offered the OP an opportunity to get answers that might prove illuminating.

(Might not, too...)

Regards,

Doc

 

[nereas]

Sorry

This one time, this guy wearing a FFM was rude to me. And another time, they were all arogant and excluded me from the club becuase I didnt have a FFM. Then they wouldnt let me dive with them because I didnt have a FFM with voice features. This was even though they were only diving on a reef 20' deep. They acted like they were all hot stuff and I was something they scraped off the back of their fins. So in my personal experience all FFM divers are arrogant jerks so I will never *ever* use or try a FFM. In fact I make it a point to go to any and all FFM forums just so I can tell them my point of view. Because if only I can save just *ONE* diver from their evil clutches, my life's mission will be complete.

Well, you never know ... JJ might start manufacturing FFMs, and then he just may make them mandatory GUE-DIR items.

And without the voice feature, they might not qualify as DIR. Probably would depend if JJ's FFMs have them or not.

The jury is still out on the CCRs right?

 

[grazie42]

I would never ingrain "right post first" in my muscle-memory.