NAUI Advanced Open Water

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Jondjames

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Sorry if this is in the wrong sub forum, I don't know where else to post tho. My thread is in relation to advanced open water class. I just became an open water diver in May. Since then I dived in Barbados and at Vortex Spring in Florida. I have only logged 8-9 dives to date but I (just like all of you) LOVE to dive. I know I shouldn't exceed my training so I signed up for advanced class which starts this Wednesday at my local dive shop since I have the urge to go deeper. Mainly so im not left behind to miss out on the cool stuff lol. I also signed up for a nitrox class as well... I'm pretty excited... What should I expect??
 
I did NAUI Adv OW years (>15) ago...to be honest, I w/n do it again. Do Nitrox or Rescue instead. Nitrox is something you can actually USE & Rescue will get you onto any boat Advanced will...just my 2 cents.
Things have probably changed since I did it, but we did some class work on deep dives, pool sessions (throw all the gear in pool, jump in & gear up. I believe that this is no longer done but am not sure. If you have to do it my advise: air 1st, then mask. Once you can breath & see it's easy)
The OW dives were no biggie if my memory is correct...& that's a big IF. It was ~199? when I did mine.
 
Just saw that you're doing Nitrox, too. I'd still do Rescue over Advanced.
 
NAUI Advanced Scuba Diver can run the gamut between awesome and abysmal, depending on the instructor. When I first started teaching, I read through the ASD book and thought to myself "I can't charge somebody money for that ... with a couple exceptions it's a review of the basic course material" ... and those couple exceptions left out some things that I felt were important for my students to know.

But unlike some agencies, NAUI operates on a "freedom to teach" philosophy that allows the instructor to add material. I ended up writing my own, with help from another NAUI instructor, that covered the core skills I felt someone with an ASD card should have ... dive planning, buddy skills, gas management, navigation, low vis diving, deep diving, S&R. While I did give my students the NAUI book with instructions to read it for those few nuggets I felt it contained, my handbook was designed specifically for diving in our local conditions ... which typically require a lot of planning, awareness, good buddy techniques, and navigation skills.

Most NAUI instructors I know locally take some degree of this approach ... augmenting the standard course materials with both coursework and practical drills that focus on the skills they feel need to be emphasized for competent local diving.

My advice would be to ask your instructor what, besides the standard course content, they teach in the class ... and why. The answers they provide should give you some clues as to what to expect from the class ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
So my instructor said that aside from the course material we will also be opening the door to explore other possibilities in diving by touching base on a few specialty courses like cavern and cave diving since the shop has a few tech diving instructors, but mainly wants to focus on our bouyance control and navigation. Which is done by me cause I haven't mastered either yet. My biggest reason for doing the advanced class is to not be left behind on certain expeditions requiring more than just OW, and also have a proficient understanding of deeper diving. Nitrox was recommended over advanced during my original OW class so I just figured I might as well take them both. I also signed up to get my dry suit certification in a few weeks. The quarries are cold around here lol. I guess rescue is next but I'd like to take my time and get some dives under my belt. So far only 9.
 
My instructor also said something about nitrox recognition and nitrox diver, only difference being that one requires checkout dives. After some research I realize the inly difference is mainly due to politics but I'm still questioning which one i should go with. Any cons to having the recognition card only??
 
No cons that I can think of to the recognition card. If you do the nitrox while doing your advanced, all you have to do to get the nitrox diver card is to make two of the advanced dives on nitrox. Pretty easy add-on.
 
Sorry if this is in the wrong sub forum, I don't know where else to post tho. My thread is in relation to advanced open water class. I just became an open water diver in May. Since then I dived in Barbados and at Vortex Spring in Florida. I have only logged 8-9 dives to date but I (just like all of you) LOVE to dive. I know I shouldn't exceed my training so I signed up for advanced class which starts this Wednesday at my local dive shop since I have the urge to go deeper. Mainly so im not left behind to miss out on the cool stuff lol. I also signed up for a nitrox class as well... I'm pretty excited... What should I expect??
Hi Jondjames - I'm also new to the sport and just finished my Nitrox class. Nitrox isn't about going deep, it's more about extending your bottom times. I earned my open water cert last month, and will be diving in the Florida Keys this weekend. I'll earn my Adv Open water in the Keys. Next year I am planing to dive with my son in Hawaii. Welcome aboard !
 
@NWGratefulDiver nailed this. It totally depends on the instructor. I took advanced with a NAUI instructor a few years ago. He also felt the Advanced bookwork was pretty lame (my words, not his). We used the "Master Scuba Diver" manual and test, then met the requirements for Advanced on the dives, and I got an "Advanced Scuba Diver" card. NAUI doesn't call it "Advanced Open Water" just as your first card isn't "Open Water" it's "Scuba Diver."

Regardless of the quality of the advanced class, you'll eventually need an advanced card for some of the more common dives. There are many dive operators that require you to present the card to dive particular sites.

If you are taking the class to learn rather than to gain access to sites, consider the Master or Rescue classes. Personally, I took the class primarily for site access. The additional knowledge I gained from the master materials was just a bonus.


I've come to think of this as a positive. Positive because NAUI's OW class teaches what other agencies save for Advanced (and solo, and a handful of other cards). I think NAUI needed to have an advanced class so that divers could get the card dive operators require for some dives. This class meets the need. The reason the material isn't new to folks like nwgreatfuldiver? yep, it's in OW. The class meets the minimum required by the dive industry, and some instructors add extra to create educational value. Either way you get the card that operators ignorant of the differences in OW classes ask for.
 
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Thanks guys. I am excited to get the dives over with next month and plan on making at least 2 dives on nitrox so I can get the "nitrox diver" card. I can't help but to think its all just a money trap to get you to take more classes if advanced doesn't really teach you anything. Nonetheless I'm willing to pay to play so that I can get down to deeper sites and gain even more experience. To be honest taking a class is also just a easy way to get wet. The only other person I know with a diver certification is my wife and she's not into it as much as I am so my dive time is rather limited due to th buddy system lol. Debating maybe a solo diver class in the future as well.
 

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