n00b question..

[scubatoys]

I always get a chuckle out of the guy who if having surgery, most all the instruments and monitoring devices are computers, balances his check book with a computer, checks his credit card balance on a computer to decide if he can take a trip, then books a dive trip on his computer, then drives to the airport with a car that has a computer that makes it run, decides if it should deploy air bags, etc, then gets in a plane to fly to a destination in a plane that virtually every piece of gear in it is run by a computer, then gets to a dive destination and says he doesn't trust computers and works table problems....

and tells others that he doesn't trust computers on a computer.

I love it!

 

[Brainscramble]

I agree that it is quite humorous that everything around you is run by a computer but not trusting your dive computer. On the other hand, most all of these computers have a manual backup, you can still steer and brake your car if your computer fails, you can balance your checkbook with out a computer (hopefully) and you can always call and make your reservations by phone without ever touching a computer.

If you look at my earlier post, I said -> Use the computer, but have a plan in case it fails. It does after all have a battery which could die, the thing could flood, or if it's on your wrist, there is the remote chance of loosing it (broken strap) etc. I use my computer all the time and do trust it, but I do know about where I am on tables also. No I won't sit there and do all the math to figure my group and such. But I know approx. where I am.

 

[seiff]

I always get a chuckle out of the guy who if having surgery, most all the instruments and monitoring devices are computers, balances his check book with a computer, checks his credit card balance on a computer to decide if he can take a trip, then books a dive trip on his computer, then drives to the airport with a car that has a computer that makes it run, decides if it should deploy air bags, etc, then gets in a plane to fly to a destination in a plane that virtually every piece of gear in it is run by a computer, then gets to a dive destination and says he doesn't trust computers and works table problems....

and tells others that he doesn't trust computers on a computer.

I love it!

who are you referring to? And who here said they didn't trust a computer? Who are you talking to and what about? The only person who said on this post that a computer can fail is ScrambleBrain, who mentioned that it actually did happen to him, and myself, who admitted that it is rare, but no one posted anything anti-computer on this thread, it is only a discussion whether the tables are worth consulting and to what extent or whether they are relevant at all. This is in reponse to someone (the OP'er) trying to fill out tables.

If you look at my earlier post, I said -> Use the computer, but have a plan in case it fails. It does after all have a battery which could die, the thing could flood, or if it's on your wrist, there is the remote chance of loosing it (broken strap) etc. I use my computer all the time and do trust it, but I do know about where I am on tables also. No I won't sit there and do all the math to figure my group and such. But I know approx. where I am.

Scrmblebrains (lol): I am totally with you here, this is exactly what I was saying as well.

 

[Hemlon]

Tables: bad.
Computers: good.

 

[scubatoys]

who are you referring to? And who here said they didn't trust a computer? Who are you talking to and what about?

No one on this thread... no one in particular. I just hear people all that time say that - in our shop - on boards etc... I was just pointing out that I find that humorous. Don't take it as a personal thing here - I was not directing at anyone.

Excuse me if you were offended... didn't intend that... I'll fade out now....

 

[AbyssalPlains]

I always get a chuckle out of the guy who if having surgery, most all the instruments and monitoring devices are computers, balances his check book with a computer, checks his credit card balance on a computer to decide if he can take a trip, then books a dive trip on his computer, then drives to the airport with a car that has a computer that makes it run, decides if it should deploy air bags, etc, then gets in a plane to fly to a destination in a plane that virtually every piece of gear in it is run by a computer, then gets to a dive destination and says he doesn't trust computers and works table problems....

and tells others that he doesn't trust computers on a computer.

I love it!

I second that.

 

[SNorman]

I agree that it is quite humorous that everything around you is run by a computer but not trusting your dive computer. On the other hand, most all of these computers have a manual backup, you can still steer and brake your car if your computer fails, you can balance your checkbook with out a computer (hopefully) and you can always call and make your reservations by phone without ever touching a computer.

Yeah, it sucks losing your computer on a dive (it actually happened to me with a rental) but that said, this doesn't happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqPTOb31S8

 

[Daner]

who are you referring to? And who here said they didn't trust a computer? Who are you talking to and what about? The only person who said on this post that a computer can fail is ScrambleBrain, who mentioned that it actually did happen to him, and myself, who admitted that it is rare, but no one posted anything anti-computer on this thread, it is only a discussion whether the tables are worth consulting and to what extent or whether they are relevant at all. This is in reponse to someone (the OP'er) trying to fill out tables.

By any chance are you a lawyer?

 

[Daner]

Well its one thing to trust the computer to do the calculations its been programmed to do, its another to trust the programming is correct esp. when its all based on modeled data and theory.

As opposed to tables which, you appear to be implying, arent based aren't based on modeled data and theory?

 

[GA Under Water]

No one on this thread... no one in particular. I just hear people all that time say that - in our shop - on boards etc... I was just pointing out that I find that humorous. Don't take it as a personal thing here - I was not directing at anyone.

Excuse me if you were offended... didn't intend that... I'll fade out now....

Is it lack of trust or lack of Option?? In most these days it is lack of option, but who'd want to fly to the Islands in a Bi-Plane with no computer.