Mosquito or Bug Control with DEET or OFF

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[ I received this from a friend as home-remedy anti-mosquito aides, anyone try them or know references for their effectiveness, I use OFF or DEET with good effect, but interested in other options ...]

Rub Bounce Fabric Softener sheets on skin

One vitamin B-1 tablet a day

If you eat bananas, the mosquitos like you, - something about the banana oil
as your body processes it.

Vick's Vaporub

Avon Skin-So-Soft bath oil mixed about
half and half with alcohol

Clear real vanilla
 
It's generally been proven that the best anti-bug stuff will contain DEET.

Also:

- keeping indoors or out of "mosquito areas" near dawn or dusk helps cut down on being bitten.

- wearing light long-sleeved shirts & long pants also helps cut down on the number of bites.

~SubMariner~
 
Yes, I noticed those in the newsletter, myself. Best as I know, their isn't scientific support for any of them.

And there is scientific support that DEET is more effective than Avon's Skin So Soft & plant oils, amongst others. For example, ----> Lemon Eucalyptus Will Do Bupkes http://www.lcmcd.org/relellents.pdf

The Apr '03 issue of "Consumer Reports" found that the DEET repellents 3M Ultrathon, Off! Deep Woods for Sportsmen & Muskol Ultra 6 Hours finished on top, followed by BugOut, Sawyer Controlled Release, Cutter Unscented, Off! Skintastic with Sunscreen SPF 30, Cutter Skinsations & Avon Skin So-Soft Bug Guard/ Sunblock, in that order. Those relying on plant oils such as citronella, soybean, coconut, and geranium "provided little if any protection."

For true protection, let's start with the following edited version of my "Ask RSD" column in the Oct '99 issue of "Rodale's Scuba Diving:"

"Sand fleas & mosquitoes can be a real bother, not to mention that they are sources of some serious tropical diseases.

The danger & bother of insects can be substantially reduced by these precautions: (1) Wear long sleeves and pants, avoiding dark or bright colors, especially at dawn and dusk. Protective clothing such as the "Buzz Off" brand can be useful. As an extra precaution, you may treat clothing with permethrin (As in the easy to use Sawyer Products http://www.permethrin-repellent.com/ ; (2) Try to stay indoors at dawn and dusk when many flying insects are most active, and avoid sandy areas as much as possible at any time of day, especially when there is no breeze. When making reservations, make sure the resort has screened windows; (3) Wear insect repellent. The best protection against these and other insects is full strength DEET. Some divers like things such as Avon's Skin-So-Soft & Cactus Juice, less toxic products than DEET, by the science is solidly behind DEET for lasting effectiveness; (4) Avoid scented toiletries and perfumes; (5) Upon arrival, treat your room with a bug bomb such as Shelltox or Fish. You can touch up with spray after that as needed."

If you do get stung, bathing in or applying colloidal oatmeal, which can be purchased at the pharmacy or grocery store, may afford some relief. Follow this by the topical application of hydrocortisone cream/lotion (prescription strength preferred), as directed. If you do not have or cannot use hydrocortisone, Calamine lotion with menthol can be applied. You may also find benefit from a nonsedating oral antihistamine. Of course, it is best not scratch at bites.

Remember that if you have a severe allergic reaction, don't get substantial resolution from self treatment, or the eruption seems to be getting worse or infected, you should seek medical attention in a timely manner."

Okay, now let's look at DEET. Most DEET containing repellents are the 15-30% range of concentration. The testing of various strengths of DEET has shown that after about 30% little additional effectiveness is to be had by upping the strength, and virtually none after about 50%. As such, there is simply no point in exposing yourself to the toxicity of more potent brews. I suggest that if decide to go this route, you look into UltraThon at 32% http://www3.3m.com/search/search?request=searchKeyword&query=ultrathon.

As regards to the health risks of DEET, used as directed over relatively brief periods of time, say a week, it also been shown to pose no risk when applied to exposed skin. I can cite studies if they will make you feel more confident. If you wear light-weight, loose fitting clothes, it generally is safe to use DEET underneath. Doing so with heavy, snug fitting clothes can result in dermatological problems & worse. As clothing can be treated with the above referenced permethrin, you can avoid the matter.

It is true that DEET can dissolve synthetics like plastics, rayon & nylon. Best to stay with natural fibers.

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual, and should not be construed as such.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
Apparently one of the most requested items by the soldiers in Iraq last month was nylons to counter the sand fly bites. I heard on the radio that some company now makes them for men with zippers, but not sure I want to start phoning around looking for a pair :D

As the first dead crow carrying West Nile virus was found here last week we are going high tech this year with a mosquito magnet in addition to the DEET. Moquitos beware.
www.mosquitomagnet.com
 
Nifty gadget. Just so it sucks in all the bugs it attracts and doesn't simply draw them to the general area.

There have been problems with this approach with devices designed to attract & capture garden pests like the Japanese beatle.

Best regards.

DocVikingo

PS: SARS & now West Nile--what' next for Toronto?
 
Those mosquito magnet devices are reviewed in the May 2003 Consumer Reports as well.

Yah, E. Coli 0157, Norwalk, SARS, West Nile we have had them all up here. Keeps life in the trenches interesting. Only other thing making a comeback is syphilis but I'm sure you don't have to worry about that while visiting here :wink:
 
Many thanks for everyone's reply, particularly Dr. DVs dissertion.

DocVikingo once bubbled...
Okay, now let's look at DEET. Most DEET containing repellents are the 15-30% range of concentration. The testing of various strengths of DEET has shown that after about 30% little additional effectiveness is to be had by upping the strength, and virtually none after about 50%. As such, there is simply no point in exposing yourself to the toxicity of more potent brews. I suggest that if decide to go this route, you look into UltraThon at 32% http://www3.3m.com/search/search?request=searchKeyword&query=ultrathon.

As regards to the health risks of DEET, used as directed over relatively brief periods of time, say a week, it also been shown to pose no risk when applied to exposed skin. I can cite studies if Best regards.
DocVikingo

I use the "woodsman" formulation, which is ~ 100% DEET then pondered the value of popular prepartions at 3-30% strength.

Its useful to know if alternatives exists locally, so in case one is without DEET during a trip to the boonies, there is some recourse.

The woodsman variety benefits travels with weight restricted areas on small planes since these concentrations are smaller, less volume, and thus lighter. I would moisten my skin with wet hands, which then allows one to spread a brief spray of 100% DEET to nearly an entire limb. I'm not sure what the DEET concentration then becomes on contact, but at worse it looks like ~ 50%.

I'm comfortable with the data on DEETs hazard, I'm not aware of any verified toxicities beyond contact dermatitides, such as teratogenicity or convulsions.
 
I do bug research for a living. Repellency tests in the lab are very difficult to do and make them valid. It can be done, but the best way is to put stuff on your skin and count bites. That's not always practical!
I, myself, have found exactly two things in my lab that repel bugs: Deet and Permethrin.
Skin So Soft does have repellent qualities for about 10 minutes, but as the stuff vaporizes, it changes and actually becomes an attractant.

All that other stuff--garlic, yeast, whatever your aunt Mary uses that works like a charm--it's not crapola, but it is a matter of perception. YMMV.
Traps are a good way to go as long as they are far away from you, they often use CO2 as an attractant, since that is what we breathe, and is what turns blood-feeding bugs on. :)

Me? I use DEET (which is an excellent solvent, that's why plastics are unsafe around it), or Permethrin. Just remember, for heaven's sake, to wash it off before you jump in the water over a coral reef.
 
After spending a month in the jungle in Belize, I'm more than familiar with bug bites of all varieties. One thing the locals told us was to flick off bugs that we caught landing on us instead of squashing them. The logic being that if the skeeter had already dug in, you could inadvertantly push more saliva into your skin by smacking them and that flicking them off afforded some marginal protection from just removing them from the area.

Mostly we used Deep Woods Off for a bug repellent, but nothing really works in the bush.

FYI, I was in Belize for 5 weeks, I got no malaria, bot fly infestation, infection from my bug bites, or anything jungle related. I did come back with an ear infection from diving. How stupid was that?

Rachel
 
It's works! I've had mine running for a little over three weeks and that thing has over 1000 blood sucking scab makers in it. It's quite effective in a residential setting. I live in the Mosquito Lagoon area of Florida and would normally have to apply so much bug spray my skin would burn. Since I've had it running, I can count the total number of bites I've gotten with one hand.

I was told by my county's Mosquito Controll Dept that you really shouldn't put on any product with more thatn about 35% Deet as the risk for CNS reaction increases. They reccomend using as much as possible but not to exceed 35%. I don't know if this is true but the guy seemed as though he knew what he was talking about.

-Crispy:)
 

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