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Looking for a FFM.

Discussion in 'Public Safety Divers/Search and Rescue' started by DragonslayerAZ, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. DragonslayerAZ

    DragonslayerAZ Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Tucson AZ
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    Looks like the guardian is the route I'm going. I tried on the guardian, ocean reef predator, and an aga. I liked all of them but the guardian and aga felt solid like a tool. I felt the aga and guardian were very close fit wise. The deciding factor was the cost of rebuild kits, the feel of the silicone double seal, right side hose routing, standard fitting to more easily switch out hoses for length or material.
     
  2. N2DeepInAz

    N2DeepInAz Dive Shop

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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    Go Guardian, you won't regret it. I've been teaching FFM with the Guardian for a year now and I chose mine based on how it fit and the field of view and it's solid, not flimsy. I tried them all on at DEMA one year before deciding. OTS just makes an awesome product.
     
  3. amoses

    amoses ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 100 - 199
    Location: Keene, Texas
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    If you change your mind, I have a brand new, still in the box, never removed from the box, Neptune Space G FFM that I won in a dive contest. I will likely never use it so will sell it for a pretty good discount off of new. Let me know if you are interested.
     
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  4. DragonslayerAZ

    DragonslayerAZ Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Tucson AZ
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    Pulled the trigger on a used all black guardian and a d2 buddy phone. Its only got 2 dives on it. I also picked up a used apeks fst first stage to go with it. Drill time in the pool to follow
     
  5. abdelhub

    abdelhub Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: puget sound
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    In my agency we used to dive the AGA. We have now transitioned to the guardian. There are positives and negatives for both. I prefer the guardian as the on demand air Vs. the positive pressure of the AGA has cut down on leaks around the face. The issue for quick donning the guardian is getting the dry hood (for us) over the edges of the mask to prevent leaks whereas on the AGA you could put it outside the hood. we had problems with AGA straps breaking over time because guys were reefing them down so hard to prevent leaks outside the hood

    Mike
     
  6. abdelhub

    abdelhub Angel Fish

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: puget sound
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    as a bonus i can get a lot longer time using a guardian.....(on demand) GOPR3128.jpg
     
  7. DragonslayerAZ

    DragonslayerAZ Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Tucson AZ
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    Update, I've run my drills with the guardian an I absolutely with out a doubt love it! I am very comfortable donning, doffing, flooding, clearing, and switching to an alternate mask and secondary air source. I'm now looking for a gas switching block and a 30 to 40 cuft pony to go with it. The guardian is my favorite piece of scuba gear. What hoods have people had success with the guardian? Am I better off with a trimmed hood over my guardian seals or a hood with a thin seal to go under my guardian seals?
     
  8. anelson-OTS

    anelson-OTS Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Santa Ana, CA
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    If you are going to use a thin latex hood, it should seal properly and you shouldn't have an issue.

    If you are going to dive with a neoprene hood, it should be trimmed away from the face because of the air that gets in the neoprene. Although you MAY get a seal over a neoprene hood, it isn't common and usually the mask would have to be cranked down on the diver's head...not the recommended way to go. Having a direct seal to the skin of the face is ideal.

    When we dive our masks, we all have trimmed hoods. Put the mask on your face, have a friend take a magic marker to trace around the mask (we use a color that is the same or similar to the mask color so that if you get marker on your mask you can't see it) and trim with some scissors. Takes about 2 minutes and you get a good clean seal every time on a dive.

    I personally have a Mares 6.4.3. Flexa with Bib that is trimmed.
     
  9. 25_Ton_Master

    25_Ton_Master Captain

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    + 1. Go to OTS web wage they do have used one from time to time. Try EBAY. Also if you ever get communication and you will OTS has the best. Just got my 2010 in. pick up a STX 101 a few weeks ago off Ebay.
     
  10. anelson-OTS

    anelson-OTS Nassau Grouper

    # of Dives: I'm a Fish!
    Location: Santa Ana, CA
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    Here is the link to our Outlet Store that 25_Ton_Master is referring to : Shop | Ocean Technology Systems

    No Guardians on the Outlet Store currently, but there are new additions a few times a month.
     

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