LNG facility in outer Boston harbor.....?

[Dragon2115]

Would you like some cheese to go with your whine too?

Here are some facts for you to mull over.

Boston wants the LNG facility gone because of the potential damage that would occur in teh event of a terrorist attack or major accident which would be sever given its proximity to the city.

Fall River doesn't want it either for the exact same reasons.

Nobody wants it in their neighborhood for the exact same reasons.

There are very few choices to locate the new termimal that don't place many HUMAN lives at risk.

Placement in the outter harbor will disturb shipping traffic the least and put the minimum possible lives at risk in the event of a catastrophic incident.

And for everyone that says there's other alternatives, lets hear exactly what they are, not just that there are. Once you start trying to think of practical alternatives you'll start to realize it's not as easy as it sounds.

I think the point is that there might be BETTER places to put it than in the park...or did you miss that point?

But, unfortunatly with the current oil company cronies in Washington the oil/energy companies have even more power than ever to ruin our environment and I'm sure they will use their "political capital" as they call it to do so. Giving away our national parkland to industry is the current fad in Washington.

oil/gas = money= power = corruption.....so what else is new?

I agree with Pat from BDS....contact your reps, but sadly I doubt that it will do any good.

John C.

 

[Boston Diver Services]

Man, Dragon what part are you missing? If you have read any of the posts, no one is saying we don't need the facility or that on AN island is a bad idea. All that I said is that maybe that the only National Park in Massachusetts is not the best choice. Maybe the Isles of Shoals would do, or on Noman's Land or an offshore platform. Hell, why not take Martha's Vineyard by Eminent Domain and put it there. Can you see my point? There are other options. It is not my job to study and choose the best option. It is my job to speak up when I think something is wrong. I grew up on these Islands as my playground. My kids should have the same opportunity. We lost Governor's I.& Apple I., to Logan. Deer I. to the prison then the sewage treatment plant. In your world would we offer the whole park to any industry who wants them?
Maybe Dragon, you have not done any of your dives in the area. I would love to take you out and show you some of what the outer harbor has to offer. And Remember, this is the SCUBABOARD, we are supposed to be looking out for divers and diving here. Anyway I am done pushing this rock uphill. Dragon, If you want to see what we will be losing if this plan goes through, call me for a charter. Hell, I'll even take you for free.

P.S. I am still betting the "Bird Lovers" kill the whole plan.

 

[jchaplain]

You obviously don't read peoples post, you only blindly post snide remarks, so this probably doesn't even deserve a follow up post, but....
I DID post an alternative suggestion IF you had bothered to read.
I said how about off three and one-half fathoms ledge.

I agree it is needed. Just not there. I dove around there today and I also dove Three and One Half Fathoms ledge today. Have you ever dove there? Just wondering if you have any idea about what/where others are talking about or if you're just...nevermind..... :shakehead

John C.

Would you like some cheese to go with your whine too?

Here are some facts for you to mull over.

Boston wants the LNG facility gone because of the potential damage that would occur in teh event of a terrorist attack or major accident which would be sever given its proximity to the city.

Fall River doesn't want it either for the exact same reasons.

Nobody wants it in their neighborhood for the exact same reasons.

There are very few choices to locate the new termimal that don't place many HUMAN lives at risk.

Placement in the outter harbor will disturb shipping traffic the least and put the minimum possible lives at risk in the event of a catastrophic incident.

And for everyone that says there's other alternatives, lets hear exactly what they are, not just that there are. Once you start trying to think of practical alternatives you'll start to realize it's not as easy as it sounds.

 

[MASS-Diver]

I'm all for cleaner buring fuels, but I hope this one doesn't go through. Not only will it ruin a really nice spot, but all the tanker traffic will really cahnge the whole atomosphere of the park system.

I think they need to build an offshore platform.

And, for all the people so concerned about HUMAN impact, this proposed spot is still really close to Hull - a town that already is in the direct path of much of the Logan - just because it's a poorer town should thiey now be stuck all these tankers too? I know their reps have promised to fight hard to stop it.

As I diver, I have to oppose it - the park system is just too precious.

 

[adshepard]

The fact that Boston wants it moved away from the city due to terrorist fears is interesting to those of us opposing the facilities in the Passamaquoddy Bay area. The proponents of the facilities have argued in the past that the terrorist threat was a minor concern and said just look at how safe Boston is and that Boston was not concerend. Oops there goes that argument.

DSDO

Alan

 

[Charlie99]

What happened to the proposed LNG facility in New Bedford, or was it Fall River?

Fall River. It was approved by federal government, but will probably be blocked by the state and locals simply by refusing to remove a bridge that had been scheduled for replacement. With the bridge still in place, LNG tankers can't get to the proposed terminal. The outer harbor of Boston sure beats the Fall River site, which is in a relatively high population zone.

It's a difficult balancing act. Nobody wants the terminal in their backyard, but when there's a natural gas shortage in New England in a few years, everybody will be screaming about the government not doing anything about it.

 

[large_diver]

It seems like a new LNG facility has been proposed for virtually every town between Narragansett Bay and the Bay of Fundy......

My in-laws live in Harpswell, ME and just went through this. There is a deep water area in the town where tankers previously unloaded jet fuel for Brunswick Naval Air Station. The proposal was to convert this and the neighboring jet fuel tank farm into an LNG facility.

Incredibly nasty fight in a small town -- the facility would have provided a HUGE tax revenue boost for the town, and as a result many residents were supportive. On the other side of the argument were lobstermen, fishermen and naturalists. Eventually the proposal was voted down.

Not sure what the right answer is in the Boston case, but using the outer harbor islands would really suck for divers and anyone else using this area for recreation. Nobody wants this thing in their backyard of course.....

 

[MSilvia]

Nobody wants this thing in their backyard of course.....

I'd rather have it in my backyard than on my dive site.

 

[large_diver]

I'd rather have it in my backyard than on my dive site.

LOL...agreed

 

[Boston Diver Services]

I agree Matt. P.