LNG facility in outer Boston harbor.....?

[large_diver]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...oposes_lng_facility_on_outer_brewster_island/

 

[MSilvia]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...oposes_lng_facility_on_outer_brewster_island/

I love diving out there... I think I'll have to talk to my legislators about that.

 

[Boston Diver Services]

The recent talk of an LNG facility on Outer Brewster has me enraged. Would a chemical plant be considered in Yellowstone or maybe a refinery at Shiloh? Then why should this kind of project be considered in OUR National Park?
I know this plan needs at least Legislative approval if not Congressional. It is a real weird partnership that runs the Park. If the Environmentalists aren't up in arms then something is wrong here. Use of the Island is discouraged because it is used by rare migrating birds.
The building of an LNG Facility in the middle of OUR Harbor is a bad idea. Anyone who spends time on the Harbor knows how the necessary security these tankers demand disrupts the harbor. What will the constant presence of this facility mean to the boaters, divers and nature lovers who utilize, not to mention pay for, these islands?
NO TO THE AES CORPORATION!!!

 

[Dragon2115]

That's right, not in my back yard damn it.

Get over it. The LNG terminal is being moved period. Due to security risks it can't stay where it is now. A simple look at the blast damage assessment from a terrorist strike or major accident at the terminal will lead you to the same conclusion. There's no way around it.

The bottom line is nobody wants it in their neighborhood, in their park, or near whatever birds nesting ground. But you can guaranty one thing, somebody is going to lose here. So you don't want it on one of the outter islands then you better come up with a better proposal and present it to the State asap or get used to things changing.

[added] P.S. there will be far less disruption to shipping and other harbor traffic if the terminal were in the outter islands than where it is now.

 

[adshepard]

We've got a number of theses LNG facilities proposed in The Passamaquoddy Bay area in Maine/New Brunswick and the fight just goes on and on.

Hopefully the Canadians will block all the proposals by denying access to the bay as ships would have to go through Head Harbour Passage, a heavily used area by whales, seal, fishermen, boaters and divers. They blocked passage of big tankers in a proposal some thirty years ago and should do it again.

You may find some info on how to block an LNG facility on the Save Passamaquoddy Bay from LNG website:

Save Passamaquoddy Bay from LNG

DSDO

Alan

 

[jchaplain]

I think the point is that there might be BETTER places to put it than in the park...or did you miss that point?

But, unfortunatly with the current oil company cronies in Washington the oil/energy companies have even more power than ever to ruin our environment and I'm sure they will use their "political capital" as they call it to do so. Giving away our national parkland to industry is the current fad in Washington.

oil/gas = money= power = corruption.....so what else is new?

I agree with Pat from BDS....contact your reps, but sadly I doubt that it will do any good.

John C.

That's right, not in my back yard damn it.

Get over it. The LNG terminal is being moved period. Due to security risks it can't stay where it is now. A simple look at the blast damage assessment from a terrorist strike or major accident at the terminal will lead you to the same conclusion. There's no way around it.

The bottom line is nobody wants it in their neighborhood, in their park, or near whatever birds nesting ground. But you can guaranty one thing, somebody is going to lose here. So you don't want it on one of the outter islands then you better come up with a better proposal and present it to the State asap or get used to things changing.

[added] P.S. there will be far less disruption to shipping and other harbor traffic if the terminal were in the outter islands than where it is now.

 

[LobstaMan]

What happened to the proposed LNG facility in New Bedford, or was it Fall River? I can never get those two places right.

Outer Boston Harbor is a bad spot in my selfish opinion because I enjoying diving there and would be prohibited from doing so by the LNG safety zones I'm sure. I know I'm not the only one. Although it has to go somewhere, I don't agree with the shut up and get over it attitude. A little too draconian for my tastes. There's always alternatives. Besides, when politicians and the government get involved, you can bet at the very least it will be delayed for years.

LobstaMan

 

[jchaplain]

There are billions of dollars at stake here so I think the least they could do is to build a seperate new island out a quarter mile further to house this rather than use existing national parkland.
I'd have a lot less objection if they built it on three and one half fathoms ledge.

John C.

What happened to the proposed LNG facility in New Bedford, or was it Fall River? I can never get those two places right.

Outer Boston Harbor is a bad spot in my selfish opinion because I enjoying diving there and would be prohibited from doing so by the LNG safety zones I'm sure. I know I'm not the only one. Although it has to go somewhere, I don't agree with the shut up and get over it attitude. A little too draconian for my tastes. There's always alternatives. Besides, when politicians and the government get involved, you can bet at the very least it will be delayed for years.

LobstaMan

 

[Boston Diver Services]

I am no engineer, but it seems to me that there are offshore platforms pumping all sorts of stuff out of the earth. Maybe this could be a better option than in a NATIONAL PARK. I know we need it and that no one wants it, but the parks are supposed to be somthing we cherish and pass down. Here is part of the mission statment for the Boston Harbor National Park: "The mission of the Boston Harbor Islands National Recreation Area is to make the Boston Harbor Islands system-with opportunities for education, recreation, and restful solitude within an urban area-an integral part of the life of the region and the nation by protecting the islands and their associated resources while at the same time improving public knowledge and access." The complete statement can be found at: http://www.bostonislands.org/manage/manage_admin_mission.html
If this is the only option we have, I am in. But, we should not give something as precious as this away without some real soul searching. P.

 

[Boston Diver Services]

One more point: Currently the security zone around an LNG is 1000 yards. If this zone is carried over to the new facility everything from Shag Rocks north to the Roaring Bulls and west to Calf Island would be off limits. I don't know about everyone else here but I do a hell of a lot of diving in this area, and would hate to lose access.