Line work videos

[kidsdream]

I was wondering if anybody had any links (youtube etc.) to sites showing line (reel and spool) work. I am especially looking to see tie offs. I am most interested to review (so I can practice topside) how a spool is tied in and clipped of as part of jump or during a lost line drill.

Thanks in advance.

 

[TSandM]

Not tying in a spool, but there is line work well demonstrated in the UTD "Tech" DVD.

 

[kidsdream]

I am really only interested in viewing the tie portions as I am having a bit a brain fart on the way to lock down the spool when tying into another line. I want to practice before my next trip, but if not I will just bug a few of the guys I know up in High Springs for a bit of a refresher

Not tying in a spool, but there is line work well demonstrated in the UTD "Tech" DVD.

 

[rjack321]

Why not have your buddy show you how they do it?

 

[ucfdiver]

You wrap the line twice around the double ender, snap it into the hole on the spool (keeping it tight), and then toss the spool over the line twice, and snap the other end of the double ender back on your own line. This is the same as doing a jump. You can drop a non directional (or directional) marker on the side that you choose to exit so that your teammate knows where you went, and then change it if you hit a conflicting marker and turn around, depending on what you and your buddy decide.

Here's a video of the lost line drill from my class. 2:45 in you can see how to tie the reel in. It was during my class, and I failed to drop a non directional marker on the line at first, which is what the confusion is...I was wondering when I would get tapped on the head (the signal that the drill was over), and didn't realize what I was forgetting.
http://b.static.ak.fbcdn.net/swf/mvp.swf?7%3A136764=&v=528073356615&s=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fswf%2Fembed.swf%3F7%3A134871&ts=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fswf%2Fmvp_tail_slate.swf%3F7%3A134155

This should have been mandatory during your class (whether standards require it or not!), did you not do it?

 

[kidsdream]

In my intro class we did in fact do the lost line drill. I however did not actually find the line (it appeared from the video that your instructor gave you some guidance in finding the line). I was place about 5' down a side passage (out of the flow that would have provide some reference) located a good 20'+ from the gold line and my instructor let me the drill run for a full 10 minutes before calling the drill with no assistance. I did get a good tie in to start my search, I never became entangled, I just never found the line (yup I would have bit the big one if I only had 10 minutes or air).

Of course going forward, to get full cave certification finding the line is a requirement.

You wrap the line twice around the double ender, snap it into the hole on the spool (keeping it tight), and then toss the spool over the line twice, and snap the other end of the double ender back on your own line. This is the same as doing a jump. You can drop a non directional (or directional) marker on the side that you choose to exit so that your teammate knows where you went, and then change it if you hit a conflicting marker and turn around, depending on what you and your buddy decide.

Here's a video of the lost line drill from my class. 2:45 in you can see how to tie the reel in. It was during my class, and I failed to drop a non directional marker on the line at first, which is what the confusion is...I was wondering when I would get tapped on the head (the signal that the drill was over), and didn't realize what I was forgetting.
http://b.static.ak.fbcdn.net/swf/mvp.swf?7%3A136764=&v=528073356615&s=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fswf%2Fembed.swf%3F7%3A134871&ts=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fswf%2Fmvp_tail_slate.swf%3F7%3A134155

This should have been mandatory during your class (whether standards require it or not!), did you not do it?

 

[jeandiver]

Am I the ONLY ONE that still uses jump reels? (sigh)

I.E. I like having my double ender already attached. (EEK)

Jean

P.S. I also do a double twist on the line I am attaching to and then clip the "single-ender" to the reel's line. That way the clip points the way out. But that's just me.

 

[TSandM]

Lost line is humbling. My GUE instructor took me about 10 or 15 feet off the line, allowed me to orient myself to where I could see the line and look all around me and get all the orientation cues I wanted. Then he turned my light off, and FOURTEEN MINUTES later, I found the line. It was humbling.

Your instructor took you into a side passage where the flow didn't help you, because he wanted you to understand how dire the consequences of losing the line are. Especially in Florida, it would be very easy to get complacent about the line, because the passages are limited in size, and the flow is a great orientation tool. Not so in Mexico, and not so when you get off the main, high flow lines.

 

[karstdvr]

Am I the ONLY ONE that still uses jump reels? (sigh)

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Nope,I prefer my Ralph Hood reels. I have a huge collection of double ended bolt snaps I've found in caves because they come unattached so easily.

 

[OneBrightGator]

You wrap the line twice around the double ender, snap it into the hole on the spool (keeping it tight), and then toss the spool over the line twice, and snap the other end of the double ender back on your own line.

What's the reasoning behind wrapping the line twice around the double ender? I assume you mean the opening on the end you snap back onto the spool?