LDS's are just too expensive

[SterlingDiver]

I drive past four shops and travel 50 miles to patronize a shop that provides good service and seems to understand that their customers are their greatest assets.

Even still, I have purchased thousands of dollars of items online for many reasons. Mostly, because of the availability of what I was buying.


Dave

 

[SterlingDiver]

LDSs who think the customer owes them something are usually just making excuses for bad service. If the service they provide is actually worth what they are charging for it, then they should be able to sell it without guilting the customer into giving them donations.

My experiance, also.

 

[J.R.]

So... Ok... SOMEBODY please explain this thread to me...

BROTHERS AND SISTERS... ya' got yer' LDS... ya' got yer' internet... complete with e-bay option. The ability to slag down your credit card is unimpeeded... and NOBODY is making you buy anything from yer' LDS... so.. what's yer beef?

I'm thinkin' that maybe what you're REALLY whinning about is that you don't feel that you're actually a part of the congregation if you don't make the weekly pilgrimage to the shrine of the LDS... (Truely I say unto you... the doors are open and they will welcome you with open arms... and registers. The embrace of the LDS shall not be lacking for anything... ) I'm thinkin' that, even though all of the toys are available to you via other chapels of commerce... you KNOW you're missing something.

Why do you persicute those who follow the othodox path... if they wish to sell for full boat retail... and others wish to BUY full boat retail... why should this impact the rites you chose to follow...

I tell ya', BROTHERS AND SISTERS, ol' Rev. Jim is confused... you're both proud of the fact that you have the tools and knowledge to avoid the pain in the purse... yet you still persist in your persicutions... BROTHERS AND SISTERS... WHAT'S YOUR *REAL* *****???

Although the LDS may beg and plead with you to abandon your tight-wad ways... yet will they sell to you, even though you walk the path of the miser or the simply frugal.

But it has been said that thou shalt not have thy cake and eat it too... so know ye' that by your actions shall the world be changed... are you read for that kiddies??? Do you have enough vis to see the future?

Again I say unto you... SPREAD IT AROUND... you still haven't hit the limit of your MASTERCARD... you CAN BUY MORE... spend until that sucker melts upon the counter you lay it down on... it is within your power to spread joy and cash far and wide and your charge to do so... (Hey... who's that guy back there... yea'... all the way in the back.... the one in the old VOIT mask and that ratty, nasty ol' wet suit... the one with... what's that... CASH in his pocket... BROTHERS AND SISTERS... save this poor soul... show him the ways of the indulgent headonist... teach him that cash don't help his bouyancy... but new gear do!!!)

... anyway... thus ends today's message...

Ya'll have fun and and the end of the day... follow your bubbles...

 

[J.R.]

Whoa... Rev. Jim has just discovered the 'dios ex machina' of ScubaBoard... in this mornings sermon I used a single word (5 letters) that was a synonym for "complain"... it begins with a "B" and ends with an "itch"... also commonly used in the animal husbandry world (species: cannies) to denote a female dog... yet... WHEN THE REV. POSTED HIS SERMON the word came out *****.

Whuzzup with THIS??? Wuz' I cussin'? (Nope)... was the Rev. dissin' the ladies? (Nope)... Wuz' the Rev. contributing to the delinquency of an LDS? (Nay...)

So... the etherial editor has struck... AND YOU TRUST THE INTERNET???

Have a good one kiddies... and remember... there is ALWAYS a blue light special somewhere...

 

[ReefHound]

Does anybody care about time, traffic, and parking..or am I the only one?

You're not the only one, but we may be the only two. Whenever someone yaps about having to ship something back to the online LDS for return or service, I usually mention that it's easier and cheaper than driving across town fighting traffic to get to the LDS.

 

[amascuba]

Whoa... Rev. Jim has just discovered the 'dios ex machina' of ScubaBoard... in this mornings sermon I used a single word (5 letters) that was a synonym for "complain"... it begins with a "B" and ends with an "itch"... also commonly used in the animal husbandry world (species: cannies) to denote a female dog... yet... WHEN THE REV. POSTED HIS SERMON the word came out *****.

Whuzzup with THIS??? Wuz' I cussin'? (Nope)... was the Rev. dissin' the ladies? (Nope)... Wuz' the Rev. contributing to the delinquency of an LDS? (Nay...)

So... the etherial editor has struck... AND YOU TRUST THE INTERNET???

Have a good one kiddies... and remember... there is ALWAYS a blue light special somewhere...

You've obviously have never been introduced the the dive shop employee and/or owner who will belittle their clientele for buying scuba gear off the internet, yet don't go the lengths to build a standing relationship with their clientele so that they will be inclined to bring them business.

 

[J.R.]

You've obviously have never been introduced the the dive shop employee and/or owner who will belittle their clientele for buying scuba gear off the internet, yet don't go the lengths to build a standing relationship with their clientele so that they will be inclined to bring them business.

... and YOU *obviously* have no clue as to what I've been introduced to... there's all kinds out there... some sit behind counters in dive shops... some lurk ScubaBoard... SOME ACTUALLY DIVE...

... so WHAT if the crack wise with ya'... yer' a SCUBABOARD DUDE... don't tell me you haven't seen it here? You have options... walk out... go to a different LDS... but to tar ALL LDS's for the fact you got some smack in one... ain't right, dude...

Personally I think most of this crackin' on the LDS is just a strong desire to join the rest of the lemmings in their deep dive off a high cliff... ain't thought out...

my two pounds of gas...

 

[amascuba]

... and YOU *obviously* have no clue as to what I've been introduced to... there's all kinds out there... some sit behind counters in dive shops... some lurk ScubaBoard... SOME ACTUALLY DIVE...

... so WHAT if the crack wise with ya'... yer' a SCUBABOARD DUDE... don't tell me you haven't seen it here? You have options... walk out... go to a different LDS... but to tar ALL LDS's for the fact you got some smack in one... ain't right, dude...

Personally I think most of this crackin' on the LDS is just a strong desire to join the rest of the lemmings in their deep dive off a high cliff... ain't thought out...

my two pounds of gas...

I'm willing to spend a few extra dollars for a LDS that provides good service. Fortunately I have found one of those shops and the owner knows that I will give him a fair shot of winning my business before I go to other people (or he provides me a list of other people who can provide what I want).

On the other hand, I have also experienced the dive shop that doesn't have great service and is mismanaged. Those are the shops that make me look for other avenues for the goods that I want.

I have a good standing business relationship with my current LDS owner, infact we typically each lunch together every Saturday.

Other than the fact that I don't understand half of what you're trying to say, I think I have answered your question?.

So what's crack-a-lackin Mr. BoJangles?

 

[Brandon]

The Gospel According to Jim

Amen and Hallelejuah my brother!

Praise Cousteau!

(can we start a Crusade?)

-Brandon.

 

[J.R.]

So what's crack-a-lackin Mr. BoJangles?

Well....

The think is I keep seeing all these self-righteous posts about those EVIL and NASTY LDSs out there and how they're opressing the dive community, bustin the chops of poor innocent customers who choose to exercise their rights to support on-line merchants, etc., etc...

WHAT I DON'T HEAR is the tales of the guy who wanders in to the full-boat retailer and attempts to leverage his desire to purchase by throwing the fact that he can get the same BC/reg/tank-knocker on the internet for half the price... (or whatever)... in the shop-op's face.

I've seen it any number of time... heck, at one point I did it myself... The sad part is... the poor oppressed diver doesn't ususally seem to care who else is around... in fact, they seem to prefer it when there are other customers in the shops... I don't know... maybe they think this ads to their leverage over the dive shop op...

So... what's the LDS supposed to do? Sit back and cave? Throw up a surrender flag? Attempt to explain their situation? I rarely see a diver who's waving the internet flag ever go down without a fight... if "A" pushes... "B" pushes back... it's how it always seems to go.

I guess the thrust of this is simply... I really don't see any point in LDS bashing... and particularly when it's put in a 'saints and sinners' form where they're always the bad guys and the complainer is a poor innocent little diver who's getting abused by them... which is RARELY the issue.

... are there bad dive shops... sure there are... no question. There are bad internet sites too... but if there's a gripe... let's use a narrower brush... there are also some DARNED good dive shops out there... and the last thing we want to do is to put them in a corner with the miscreants.

... and before any more assumptions begin... No... I don't own a dive shop... nor am I employed by one... but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once...

The reaction of LDSs to this pressure, to me... is very understandable. When I waltz in looking to buy a whatever... I'm on their turf... I'll listen to their pitch, make a judgement, possible make a counter offer... if we reach agreement... cool.... if not... "Thank you for your time..." ... move on ... nothing to see here.

I've seen a couple of LDS bashing threads out here now... the archives would PROBABLY reveal more... it seems to be more of an ego boosting sport than anything of substance...

Thank ya' for askin'...

(Oh... and it's "Gospel Preacher" mode... I can't dance a lick...)