Just me or is Scuba Diving Mag Flat Wrong!

[ianr33]

Just more garbage from Rodales.

The article on Florida Springs mentions going to the Reaper sign in Devils Eye. Lots of descriptions of overhead environments,not a single mention of cavern training.

The gear maintenance article was useful though.I realised I have been neglecting to check the flexible hose on my snorkel. Saving up for one of their favorite Dive Accessories...........Nitrox Spare Air.

The mag is a joke. IMHO

 

[LiteHedded]

the sign in the eye is probably like 8 feet from open water lol

 

[ianr33]

the sign in the eye is probably like 8 feet from open water lol

Fair enough,never actually been in the Eye.

How about " Resting inside the Ear's cave entrance and looking out.........."

 

[Cave Bum]

There is however cave parts of the cenotes and those do of course require more of a diver.

Excuse me? They require extensive training which includes a 4 part certification. Have we learned NOTHING from the endless number of openwater divers that have been pulled out of holes in the ground? For any of you that think cave diving is just an 'advanced' form of openwater diving I invite you to visit the International Underwater Cave Rescue and Recovery web site and read the accident reports. We have venues here in North Florida that allow (and even encourage) open water divers to enter a cavern. I take exception with them as well. We've pulled dead openwater divers out of those sites also. DIVING IN THE OVERHEAD ENVIORNMENT TAKES SPECIAL TRAINING. Whoever wrote that article should be fired immediately.

 

[diver 85]

Hey, tuff times ----& it's Mexico........

 

[TSandM]

The cenotes is not neccesarilly advanced dives and there is no problem doing a CESA unless youre completely out of your mind.

The definition of the cavern zone varies from agency to agency, and can be anything from combined distance from the surface and into the overhead of 130 feet to 200 feet. Personally, I do not want to contemplate doing a 200 foot CESA, and I doubt many people could successfully pull that off.

When I did my original cavern tours, there were times when "daylight" consisted of a very dim glow behind us. Having a significant issue at that point would require problem solving in the water, I think. The time to find out if you can remain calm and deal with problems rationally underwater is not in an overhead environment, as far as I am concerned.

 

[Nick.Lucey]

I am the author of the article in question. The Top 10 Dives - Riviera Maya article is one of our monthly, templated articles that highlights 10 dive sites in various destinations around the world. As with other articles in our magazine, it is presumed you have the proper training necessary to participate in the diving activities we write about. As a recreational diving magazine, the dive site descriptions in this particular article pertain to diving within ambient light sources, in keeping with APSA regulations, which also advocate the four divers per guide, rule of thirds, no deco and no deeper than 70 feet. In retrospect, I should have included these APSA recommendations in the sidebar. Thanks for your feedback.

Nick

 

[Tigerman]

Excuse me? They require extensive training which includes a 4 part certification. Have we learned NOTHING from the endless number of openwater divers that have been pulled out of holes in the ground? For any of you that think cave diving is just an 'advanced' form of openwater diving I invite you to visit the International Underwater Cave Rescue and Recovery web site and read the accident reports. We have venues here in North Florida that allow (and even encourage) open water divers to enter a cavern. I take exception with them as well. We've pulled dead openwater divers out of those sites also. DIVING IN THE OVERHEAD ENVIORNMENT TAKES SPECIAL TRAINING. Whoever wrote that article should be fired immediately.

I didnt say untrained divers should go into the clearly signed cave zones, did I?

The definition of the cavern zone varies from agency to agency, and can be anything from combined distance from the surface and into the overhead of 130 feet to 200 feet. Personally, I do not want to contemplate doing a 200 foot CESA, and I doubt many people could successfully pull that off.

When I did my original cavern tours, there were times when "daylight" consisted of a very dim glow behind us. Having a significant issue at that point would require problem solving in the water, I think. The time to find out if you can remain calm and deal with problems rationally underwater is not in an overhead environment, as far as I am concerned.

200 feet is waay to far imo, as is 130.. 50-60 shouldnt be and in worst case you are (should be) required to have a buddy that can share air with you - Something that shouldnt be an issue in the first place wherever you are.

 

[TSandM]

Well, Tigerman, have you done the cenote tours? I can guarantee you that there are times when the divers are at least 130 feet from the surface, combined depth and penetration.

 

[ucfdiver]

Well, Tigerman, have you done the cenote tours? I can guarantee you that there are times when the divers are at least 130 feet from the surface, combined depth and penetration.

How are these tours different than a "trust me" dive? Sounds as if they allow you to do the dives without the training, or am I off here?