Iron Eagle, Long Beach - Beware

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I went on the Iron Eagle's trip scheduled to visit the Cortez Banks for the opening weekend of Lobster season, booked through the Nautilus Aquatics shop at $450.00 for 3 days. It was most dissappointing and a contender for the most disorganized trip I have ever been on in 700+ dives.
Their website and phone number had become inoperational the week before which was alarming, but this wasn't the worst of what would occur.

The trip was booked and sold as being destined for the Cortez Banks, but that never happened despite promises by Captain Dan on the first day. As we steamed out of Long Beach on Friday night, a voice came on the loudspeaker asking if we wanted to do a midnight lobster dive at San Clemente just moments after lobster season opened. Many of us were excited to go lobster diving and quickly said "yes" but then retracted that thinking it would delay the overnight trip to Cortez Banks where we thought that we'd be going.

When we woke Saturday morning we were still at San Clemente Island. The Captain, Dan Adler, apparently had never intended to go to Cortez Banks the first day and stated that he wanted us to do a check out dive prior to going to the Banks. Nobody was ever told this prior to the trip, even the stunned dive organizer, and it was the start of a downward spiral of expectations.
The dive site selected had a 2-3 knot current and while several of us descended quickly to the bottom, a few divers had difficulty and drifted beyond the very short, 100ft, current drift line. One deckhand, realized this and jumped on the Waverunner without Wetsuit, Radio or PFD (Personal Floatation Device). Upon attempting to retrieve the diver the Waverunner capsized. With no communication and the remaining deckhands inattentive, the dead Waverunner drifted nearly a half of a mile before anyone figured out they should launch the Zodiac. The Zodiac had deflated over the previous few days and required inflating prior to launching. All were finally returned to the Iron Eagle, but it was a rather shocking introduction to diving on Iron Eagle.

Dan hadn't noticed because he was preoccupied with his buddy (and both their girlfriends) as Dan was giving him a private Open Water certification check-out. Dan's student floundered in the water for a few minutes, flailing in the current and then decided to call it quits. Dan, his student, and their girlfriends quickly departed in a pre-arranged speedboat pick up (to attend a wedding) but not before Dan had gathered us all on deck to promise that we definitely would be making it to Cortez Banks the next day. Due to a failed second engine which would never start, we never made it to Cortez Banks.

There was much talk amongst the guests and crew that Dan had arranged our trip itinerary to be convenient for him, his student, and their gf's plans to attend the wedding back on the mainland. There were also comments about Dan's poor choice of the dive sites; especially exposing his student to current.
On the plus side, the crew reaffirmed our suspicions that things go much smoother when Dan was not present.


The boat had a host of facilities which were unuseable or below average compared to nearly all other California dive boats.

Want a dive deck?
There is a huge dive deck, but not laid out for divers.
The boat's previous configuration as a Louisiana oil rig tender has protrusions under the benches leaving no place for dive gear to fit, so gear ended up being strewn all over the deck. Milk crate's would have been nice but they still wouldn't have fit under the benches and if left on the open deck would have just conflicted with the space occupied by cheap, white plastic lawn furniture.

Spearfisherman also used the deck to clean their catch as there were no cutting boards.
Where the deck wasn't filled with people or gear, it was slimey and stinky.

Want an air fill?
There were no long, high pressure lines to fill your tanks in their BC's, so filling tanks required that you break down your BC/reg EVERY time (further adding to the deck clutter) and carry your tank forward to the filling station.

Want a Nitrox fill?
Advertizing Nitrox on-board is a good marketing move, but those tanks were given low priority in the fill line and my buddy abandoned Nitrox for air after waiting 2+ hours with his Nitrox tank still not filled.

Want a dip tank?
There was not a single dip tank for anything - missing mask dip tanks was not that big of a deal, but it didn't stop there - UW Photographers had no place to work and no tank to soak their gear in.
At the end of the trip there was no dipping tank for regulators (very poor form).

Want a dive ladder?
They had one, single ladder and more often than not a lengthy queue would form. Unlike other boats there was no deckhand to assist you in removing your fins.

Want Lunch?
On our last day lunch was served at 3:45pm (no exaggeration) and nothing since the 8:00am breakfast. They were going to grill hamburgers, but had to wait as several divers had brought up "short", illegal sized lobsters and were permitted to BBQ them before the rest of the customers lunch was cooked. This was most unprofessional.

Want a Hot Tub?
Yes they had one, too bad it didn't function, but other posts on this board show it has been inoperational for many months.

Want a dry cabin?
Divers were permitted to lounge in the living areas while in wetsuits, soaking the carpets and cushions. This may have been a contributor to the evening humidity in the sleeping areas, but it could be poor ventilation also. Tough to tell.


I have a new appreciation for Truth Aquatics, Horizon, Peace and other dive boats which make SCUBA diving trips seem so easy.
Something the Iron Eagle has not ironed out yet.

I would definitely compare the Iron Eagle to:
Captain Abdullah's dive trips
which asks the question "WHY PAY MORE?"
 
I feel your pain

I too have paid for farnsworth bank trips and both times we were told it was to rough to go. Ended up paying alot of money to dive yellowtail point and bird rock. We did get to dive, but not where we were suposed to be.

I knew you didnt get to go to farnsworth before you mentioned it. I think those trips get all screwed up too often.

As for the boats crew and professionalism, i think they got a failing grade. I will not use that charter, thx for the heads up, sorry about your trip.

Andy
 
Your latest post about the launch sinking is old info that was discussed awhile back.

It is unfortunate you had a bad experience on this dive boat. I am sure most of us have had experiences similar in nature with other boats as well.

As I stated in a previous thread, it behooves everyone to research a boat or destination that they want to visit and sink precious $$$ into PRIOR to making their deposit or paying for the trip, to see what kind of reviews or experiences other people have had.

Sorry for your inconveniences, live and learn.
 
I was also on the Opening Weekend trip aboard the Iron Eagle, and in light of what I've read in this and previous threads, here's my trip report:

The trip was booked with Nautilus Aquatics of Pleasant Hill, CA, and was supposed to be a trip to Cortez Banks for the opening weekend of Lobster Season. We had 16 divers, most of whom came from the Bay Area for the trip. I had heard from a couple of different sources (local dive shop operators) that there were some problems with the boat, and had read the report from NapaDiver. I had not yet discovered this board, so that was all the information that I had, except that the boat had recently moved its berth from Long Beach to Wilmington. Also, their website was down (and still is at this writing). . .that's never a good sign. I stopped by the boat the day before the trip just to make sure it was still there and still in business.

Cortez Banks is approximately 100 miles offshore from Dana Point.

We never got there. . .

We left Wilmington at 9:40 PM on Friday night, expecting to wake up Saturday morning and spend the day diving at Cortez Banks. Imagine our surprise when we woke up to find that we were anchored at San Clemente Island's North Harbor.

As it turned out, Captain Dan had a student he was working with, and they had come over in a speedboat and met us before sunrise. Everyone assembled on the main deck for a briefing from Captain Dan, and he promised us we'd get to dive at Cortez Banks later in the day.

The Iron Eagle then proceeded to a spot dubbed "Ecstacy", and we prepared for the first dive of the day. My dive buddy (my brother) and I were the last divers in, and dropped into what we later estimated to be a three to five knot current. It was all we could do to hang onto the current line, let alone swim to the anchor line for our descent. We soon aborted the dive. When we got on deck, we looked aft, and there were a dozen divers surfacing approximately 300 yards away, and waving for assistance. Everyone was OK, and they clustered together, but were unable to make any headway against the current.

The crew had not yet launched the dinghy. . .it needed bailing out and inflating, and then the engine stalled when put in gear. The WaveRunner was also launched, and started to sink about the time it reached the divers. This was potentially a very dangerous situation, and handled very poorly by Captain Dan and his crew. Divers who were in the water told me later that at the time, Captain Dan seemed more concerned with saving the WaveRunner than retrieving the divers.

Subsequent inspection of the WaveRunner revealed that lifting hooks had been improperly installed in the upper hull, and the strain had cracked the fiberglass, causing the vessel to ship water.

Eventually, the Iron Eagle had to weigh anchor and go retrieve the divers. . .twelve wet, cold and tired customers after 45 minutes waiting for a pickup. Not a happy camper in the bunch. . .

Then, we went to another spot, called the "G-Spot". Here's where another bit of bad seamanship came into play; the Eagle was anchored in such a manner that it hit the reef. . .HARD. . .at least twice!!! More rode was let out, and the boat backed off the pinnacles a sufficient distance to avoid any more collisions.

This dive went off without further incident, although two crew had to be dispatched overboard when it came time to get underway to untangle the ground tackle from the pinnacles.

Captain Dan, the student, and the student's S.O. left at about that time in the dinghy, which took them back to North Harbor, where the speedboat was laying at anchor. As the dinghy was leaving, we noticed that it seemed a bit overloaded; the more prudent thing to do would have been to take Captain Dan to the speedboat, and bring it back to pick up the others. Just another example of sloppy seamanship.

Once Captain Dan & Co. left, things improved a bit. . .Corey is an excellent captain/cook/DM/etc., but is overloaded, and needs at least an assistant cook to help him out. We dove a couple more spots on the back side of San Clemente, and were expecting to travel overnite to Cortez Banks. . .

We woke up Sunday morning, still at San Clemente Island, and were informed that the starter on the port engine had failed. Wisely, Corey said he wouldn't risk taking us 100 miles out to sea with only half the boat's propulsion functioning. So, we never got to dive on Cortez Banks.

The lobster hunting was also very disappointing. . .Most of the bugs we saw were shorts, and we didn't see very many of them in the spots we went to.

The rest of the trip was spent diving several spots on the back side of San Clemente Island (also known as "the land of the shorts"), and culminated with two dives Monday morning on Farnsworth Banks, off the back side of Catalina, and a short, final dive at Little Harbor Reef before returning to Wilmington.

BOAT: Dirty, rusty, and in very poor repair. Not at all "ship-shape", and barely seaworthy. Not set up well for use as a dive charter. Fresh water pressure was totally insufficient. Items such as fire extinguishers and dive tanks were allowed to sit around on deck unsecured. The anchor is bent. Below decks HVAC intake grate/filter was filthy, and the bunkrooms became hot and stuffy whenever the main engines were running. All the other conditions described in previous posts still exist; apparently nothing has been done to fix any of them.

CREW: For the most part, hard-working and attentive, but understaffed and somewhat inexperienced. Not as familiar with the vessel as they should be. . .

CAPTAIN DAN: This guy came off as an arrogant prick!!! This evaluation was confirmed by the boat's crew. Had he not changed our itinerary so he could give his student a lesson, we would have made it to our "guaranteed" (weather and conditions permitting) destination. We also wouldn't have had a dozen divers stranded in a current headed out to sea for 45 minutes.

Subsequently, both my brother and I have applied to our respective credit card companies for a full refund. A letter to Cap'n Dan requesting that he honor his "money-back guarantee" has gone unanswered.

The boat is still in its slip in Wilmington, but appears to be out of business, as there is no working phone number or website. . .Good Riddance!!!
 

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