Innovation in diving

[gianaameri]

I do apologize for the laughing....not very professional of me. Anyway, looking at the picture of the diver with 4 big lights, I would just guess that since he is diving dual rebreathers he just might need 4 primary lights. I also took into accout that he has a rather good computer (VR3) on and he even uses very good regs.

So, a question for you. Did you dive the day after the posted dive that you made?

No, that was the last day in my dive series for the trip.

The reason why I had to give some extra thoughts about my predicament (i.e. forgetting the electronics...) is because it was incumbent upon me to close the cave down for safety (which required me to go diving to do it)... but I am not making excuses, I did not have to go in 600 meters and dive 75 minutes on scooter with no electronics to close the cave - I did that because it was fun!

So, back to our question Tony.

Have you given it any further thought or are you still driving a total blank?

The question is

Exactly what emergency (i.e. state the emergency) could have been "prevented" (to use your own words) by the Dive Computer/Bottom Timer (which admittedly I did not have breaking Scuba 101 rule) that dive on that day?

 

[TONY CHANEY]

No blanks here...just your continued blockage of common sense. OBTW, what a great place you have to dive! I would love to pack up everything and move there. Above and below the surface is truely breath taking. Thanks for sharing the links. We both know that that you made a bad decision and a worse decision in posting about it. No one agrees with what you did and few ever will. But that is something that you are willing to accept. Have fun and dive deep and forever.

 

[gianaameri]

No blanks here...just your continued blockage of common sense. OBTW, what a great place you have to dive! I would love to pack up everything and move there. Above and below the surface is truely breath taking. Thanks for sharing the links. We both know that that you made a bad decision and a worse decision in posting about it. No one agrees with what you did and few ever will. But that is something that you are willing to accept. Have fun and dive deep and forever.

It was a brilliant dive and experience, and safe.

Live while you are alive!

It is natural for people to reject what they do not understand. You have shown this in many instances in this thread.

The brain has a funny way of reconciling this, during the dream phase of sleep.

One day you will wake up one morning and think, "Ah, now I understand."

 

[gekodivebali]

Turn time?

 

[gianaameri]

Turn time?

Thread has reached a "turn-time."

Turn-time on the dive is done by SPG primarily, bearing in mind though that SPG can fail stuck and in many other different ways (a drop of sea-water in the bourdon tube can cause all sorts of dangerous SPG failures)... so another mean of estimating time should also be available (in my case that dive, that day, the runs from known waypoint to known waypoint).

 

[nimoh]

It was a brilliant dive and experience, and safe.

Live while you are alive!

It is natural for people to reject what they do not understand. You have shown this in many instances in this thread.

The brain has a funny way of reconciling this, during the dream phase of sleep.

One day you will wake up one morning and think, "Ah, now I understand."

I find the arrogance you have exhibited in this thread to be unprecedented on ScubaBoard...and now you claim to be an expert in Freudian Psychoanalysis.

 

[gianaameri]

I find the arrogance you have exhibited in this thread to be unprecedented on ScubaBoard...and now you claim to be an expert in Freudian Psychoanalysis.

Arrogant, or right?

Maybe both.

Freud was an idiot in my personal opinion.

The role and purpose of dreaming is very important, for everybody, and especially for people like Tony who served 20 years in the USMC or for people exposed to stress/trauma.

...but this is OT.

What is your contribution to the thread?

 

[nimoh]

Freud was an idiot in my personal opinion.

there is that arrogance again...most would choose to agree or disagree with Freud's body of work, or parts of it, but he was far from being an idiot.

 

[victorzamora]

Arrogant, or right?

Definitely NOT right. Definitely arrogant. Definitely NOT the attitude of any diver I want in a cave with me. Not the attitude of any diver I want on the same BOAT as me.

It's a dangerous attitude. Be careful.

 

[gianaameri]

Definitely NOT right. Definitely arrogant. Definitely NOT the attitude of any diver I want in a cave with me. Not the attitude of any diver I want on the same BOAT as me.

It's a dangerous attitude. Be careful.

Well, then, can you help Tony and explain, in a brief sentence, exactly what emergency a Bottom Timer/Dive Computer would have prevented or resolved that day that dive?

I do not mind we won't be diving together any time soon, but I'd like to understand (besides breaking a Scuba 101 rule...) what I did wrong instead from a risk management standpoint that dive that day.

It is not just an opportunity for me to understand/learn, but for everybody to learn from what you allege to have been a serious mistake that dive that day.