I like guns.

[letterboy]

But I am weak without you...

 

[Insta-Gator]

Get a room

 

[Hockeynut]

Lets get back to gun porn.

Walker Colt

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Colt Army

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That covers the ones from both True Grit and Josey Wales.

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I know a guy who has one of these. Every time he goes to a range with it, he has guys following him around with their checkbooks out.

 

[toddthecat]

This makes for some laughs:

[video=youtube;wrImp-ek3bI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrImp-ek3bI[/video]

 

[Dr. Lecter]

If I had firearms that weren't lost in a boating accident, they'd be a SCAR 16, HK P7 PSP, HK USP .45, Mossberg 500/590 mutant, and a Walther P22. Next on the list is either something in the .338 to .50 BMG range or a Wilson Combat SDS. I tell myself that at least they're cheaper than the scooter I want.

I much preferred the mp5 to the ump. The ump40 isn't bad on semi, but about useless on full auto. The mag release is easy to snap off, the plastic starts melting after to much use, and the heavy ass bolt assembly slamming back and forth makes anything more than a 3 round burst is off paper.

I've never tried the UMP, but I too will sing the praises of the MP5. If I had to pick a single home defense weapon it'd be a MP5SD with a single/3 round only trigger group. Low-powered, relatively quiet, not blinding, and holds enough 9mm hollowpoints to solve almost any problem. Too bad anything that fires more than one round per pull is somehow magically able to destroy all life as we know it, and must therefore be ungodly expensive.

 

[toddthecat]

If I had firearms that weren't lost in a boating accident, they'd be a SCAR 16, HK P7 PSP, HK USP .45, Mossberg 500/590 mutant, and a Walther P22.

Walther P22s are garbage. I had one with a suppressor on it. Was awesome until the slide flew off and drilled me in the chest because a piece broke and it went past the slide stop and off the frame. Turns out they're made out of pot metal. Only had a few hundred rounds through it too. I would never own a Walther again after that.

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Too bad anything that fires more than one round per pull is somehow magically able to destroy all life as we know it, and must therefore be ungodly expensive.

I bought direct from them a SlideFire stock for my AR-15. Totally controllable, no muzzle rise whatsoever. Think it was around $300. Really beat $14k, paperwork, a long wait, tax stamps, etc. Now states are trying to make it illegal (lol!). Got in at a good time

[video=youtube;yTSNscULt28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTSNscULt28[/video]

 

[chillyinCanada]

This makes

Is it an elephant gun or something unusual?

 

[Dr. Lecter]

Walther P22s are garbage. I had one with a suppressor on it. Was awesome until the slide flew off and drilled me in the chest because a piece broke and it went past the slide stop and off the frame. Turns out they're made out of pot metal. Only had a few hundred rounds through it too. I would never own a Walther again after that.

They are indeed; I was home for a holiday, gunless, and the price for a used one was right. So far, so good, but I recognize that it's basically a disposable plinker. I'm not sure how the low melting point zinc alloy slide gets around Saturday Night Special laws that generally ban guns one can dispose of (in large part) with a roaring campfire.

I'll keep my thoughts about slide fire stocks to myself, since they're not very nice. I'm sure they're a neat toy, much the same way that 100 round drums stuck to a Glock are neat toys. A Geissele trigger on the SCAR is the closest to automatic fire I need from a carbine.

 

[toddthecat]

I'll keep my thoughts about slide fire stocks to myself, since they're not very nice. I'm sure they're a neat toy, much the same way that 100 round drums stuck to a Glock are neat toys.

Exactly. Just toys. Typically poorly built and very, very hard on a firearm not meant to cycle that quickly if you use that toy a lot. From a tactical standpoint they are a waste of time. A few well placed shots will always be more effective than 30 spray-and-pray shots. The Desert Eagle AE .50 isn't practical either for carry or for tactical use. It's still a fun toy

 

[agilis]

Walther P22s are garbage. I had one with a suppressor on it. Was awesome until the slide flew off and drilled me in the chest because a piece broke and it went past the slide stop and off the frame. Turns out they're made out of pot metal. Only had a few hundred rounds through it too. I would never own a Walther again after that.

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I bought direct from them a SlideFire stock for my AR-15. Totally controllable, no muzzle rise whatsoever. Think it was around $300. Really beat $14k, paperwork, a long wait, tax stamps, etc. Now states are trying to make it illegal (lol!). Got in at a good time

[video=youtube;yTSNscULt28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTSNscULt28[/video]

Real Walther pistols were a casualty of WW2. Only those made in Zella Mehlis no later than 1945 meet that definition. Production continued at Ulm after 1946, and some were made in Turkey, and a few other places that obtained original machinery, and these are reasonably good. There are US made Walthers, especially the PPk and PPs in .380 that look good but can't hold a candle to the German product. Even late war Walthers are excellent, and pre-war Walthers are in many ways incomparably superb.

The Production at Ulm from 1946 to 1992 was occasionally very good for some items, but after the firm was bought out in 1993 Walthers became just another mediocre pistol with a Hollywood famous look.

You want a real Walther.22? A pre-war PP will set you back a couple of thousand, unless it's mint, in which case the sky is the limit. I have a rare 9mm kurz PP manufactured in 1938 (the proofs date them to pre or post 1940) that is in almost new condition with two magazines numbered to the gun. When I inherited it from my Godfather it had the original ammo in the magazines and a droop tail Luftwaffe emblem on the custom holster. I'm told it had belonged to a general. I was offered $4,000 a few years ago. Not even close.

As with all my especially fine vintage pieces I handle it with white cotton curator gloves. It's not one of the weapons I fire. I put one magazine through it when I first got it, and that's it.

I'm obviously a collector, not a true gun nut. I rely on my orange tabby Reggie for home defense. He's a big tough street cat I took in as an adult on a horribly cold winter day, and if anyone ever tells you cats are not affectionate, smart, and loyal, they don't know what they are talking about. Reggie, plus a unbelievably sharp Samurai sword that lives lightly on my wall, and a 100 year old external hammer Winchester pump riot gun, 12 gauge with a 19 inch barrel, are all the home defense I require. Oh yes, and my home owner's insurance policy.

Some modern stuff is interesting and extremely effective, but for me these have no soul. I regard most of my guns more as objects of art than tools. A few are objects of reverence.