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BC's seem to be popular with most LDS's and instructors due to institutional inertia - and, like it or not, the fact that they do the job pretty well for a single tank recreational diver.

The BP/wing begins to shine in technical diving where doubles, stage and deco bottles are used as most BC's will not accommodate them very well and/or are not very stable with doubles and/or the extra weight of stage bottles, etc.

The BP/wing design is both more streamlined and much more adaptable to different kinds of diving. So it may be the way to go for a new diver who thinks he or she might gravitate toward technical diving eventually as it would save money by eliminating the intial purchase of equipment that does not work all that well for technical diving.

On the other hand, most BC's are a known quantity with most insturctors and are more likely to be encountered as rental gear meaning new divers are probably more familiar and more comfortable with them.

Another plus for the BC is that most BC's will float the diver upright in the water when fully inflated while many BP wings tend to tip you face forward when fully inflated, especially with a single tank. Careful placement of weight and stopping at a but less than full infaltion usually resolves the problem, but it is one more thing to learn and be proficent with.

There are a few cross over back inflate BC's that work pretty well for technical diving. These include the Genesis Recon (which can be fitted with a backplate for use with doubles), as well as the OMS IQ pack and the Dive Rite Transpac which can accommodate stabilizing plates for doubles and are otherwise well set up for technical diving with the same modular capabilties as a full fledged BP wing.

Practically speaking, a lot of it also comes down to local culture, who you dive with and what the accepted norm is among your dive buddies.
 
DA Aquamaster:
BC's seem to be popular with most LDS's and instructors due to institutional inertia - and, like it or not, the fact that they do the job pretty well for a single tank recreational diver.

The BP/wing begins to shine in technical diving where doubles, stage and deco bottles are used as most BC's will not accommodate them very well and/or are not very stable with doubles and/or the extra weight of stage bottles, etc.

The BP/wing design is both more streamlined and much more adaptable to different kinds of diving. So it may be the way to go for a new diver who thinks he or she might gravitate toward technical diving eventually as it would save money by eliminating the intial purchase of equipment that does not work all that well for technical diving.

On the other hand, most BC's are a known quantity with most insturctors and are more likely to be encountered as rental gear meaning new divers are probably more familiar and more comfortable with them.

Another plus for the BC is that most BC's will float the diver upright in the water when fully inflated while many BP wings tend to tip you face forward when fully inflated, especially with a single tank. Careful placement of weight and stopping at a but less than full infaltion usually resolves the problem, but it is one more thing to learn and be proficent with.

There are a few cross over back inflate BC's that work pretty well for technical diving. These include the Genesis Recon (which can be fitted with a backplate for use with doubles), as well as the OMS IQ pack and the Dive Rite Transpac which can accommodate stabilizing plates for doubles and are otherwise well set up for technical diving with the same modular capabilties as a full fledged BP wing.

Practically speaking, a lot of it also comes down to local culture, who you dive with and what the accepted norm is among your dive buddies.


Pretty much, I'm in agreement with Aquamaster (that has to be a TOS violation :D ).

It is fairly easy to weight a BP/W, so it will not put you face first in the water, but it takes some playing and time. BC's, for the most part, work right out of the box. (usually, not particularly perfect, but they work).

There are a few BP/W's that have integrated weights, but be prepared to take some flack for doing that (Zeagle has a nice system on their BP/W).

If you do go BC, get a back inflate.
 
Another thought on integrated weight pockets with a bp/w is the fact that they may be less useful than on a regular bc.

A stainless steel backplate is often between 5-7 lbs. This fact means that you will be carrying less weight on your hips. Carrying 6 lbs on a weight belt is probably more comfortable than carrying 12 lbs (assuming that is what you use with a bc). So only having to deal with 6 lbs means that the advantage of weight integration is lessened.

Still, you may find that you prefer the weight integration. With a bp/w setup, you can just go buy the extra pockets (xs scuba, zeagle, dive-rite, halcyon) for less than it would cost to get a new bc which has this feature.

A couple of other acronyms or issues that you may encounter here:

Hog or hogarthian - the "DIR" name for a single piece bp/w harness - basically you thread about 12 feet of weight belt material (webbing) through your bp, and have the two ends meet at the waist buckle. Conversely, a deluxe harness will be composed of several parts and will often include snap locks like one finds on a backpack. There are advantages and disadvantages to both systems.

Names of a few bp manufacturers: dive-rite, dss, halcyon, FredT, hammerhead scuba, oms, zeagle... (not a comprehensive list)

Names of some of the more popular wing manufacturers: dss, dive-rite, oxycheq, oms, halcyon

Names of soft packs which can be used with wings instead of a backplate: trans-pac (dive-rite), IQ pack (OMS), O-pac or A-Pac (oxycheq).
 
One more thing that may guide you in your selection...

Ask your dive instructor what he uses on his own time when not teaching students. I posed that question a couple of weeks ago to an instructor who told me "jacket for teaching and dive-rite trans-pac with wing for personal".

Good luck. Scratch that.

Good, safe and happy diving. You shouldn't need luck as you are doing the right thing in educating yourself.
 
much thanks to all of you.
 

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