ereediver
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Closing the area to all Human activities would protect the sea life.
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But that isn't you issue. Your issue is that a snot-nosed punk didn't kowtow to Bob. Everything else is just a strategy to get the kids in trouble, not for what he did but for how you feel.
I hope you are noting that almost 99% of hunters are ethical and just darn good people and not lumping them all into an "extremist" category. Im a little sensative when folks talk about hunters and extremeist in the same sentenance. thanks
Closing the area to all Human activities would protect the sea life.
Sorry for getting you geared up in your own agendas....
Shrug. It's a good agenda so no worries.
My agenda as you call it is that we - humans - are at our best when we live by laws, when we promote a uniform order, when we acknowledge that behavior need not be desirable to be acceptable. When we in the USA follow the principles upon which our government was founded. When we act as a nation of laws rather than a collection of tribes enforcing unwritten local rules through vigilante "justice".
And when I weigh everything that has been attributed to the kid against everything that has been attributed to Bob, I think they both failed but Bob's failures were more pernicious. The kid harmed an octopus, Bob harmed our standing as a society of law.
Shrug. It's a good agenda so no worries.
My agenda as you call it is that we - humans - are at our best when we live by laws, when we promote a uniform order, when we acknowledge that behavior need not be desirable to be acceptable. When we in the USA follow the principles upon which our government was founded. When we act as a nation of laws rather than a collection of tribes enforcing unwritten local rules through vigilante "justice".
And when I weigh everything that has been attributed to the kid against everything that has been attributed to Bob, I think they both failed but Bob's failures were more pernicious. The kid harmed an octopus, Bob harmed our standing as a society of law.
When the needs of those various users conflict, decisions have to be made about what accommodates the most users ... as was said in one of the Star Trek movies, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
In our society, we determined a long time ago that the legal rights of the individual trump the moral righteousness of the mob.
This does point to the source of our disagreement ..., and, yes, a punk kid gets to harvest an octopus and give you lip when you call him on it. And we, as good citizens, are expected to not interfere with those individuals as they exercise their rights or, I submit, castigate them for doing so. In exchange, you are free to work to change the laws as you are now attempting.
I have every right to express my outrage, and to expose what occurred in a public place, as long as I do so in a way that does not infringe on his rights or cause him harm. That last is where we disagree. I didn't cause him harm ... idiots who can't control their behavior based on something they read did. Those people need to be held accountable for the harm they caused.