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Sounds great. I think we need to definitely find a Discover class.

I LOVED snuba! I loved being able to be under water. Without having any training, I think I did well (the others in my group had great difficulty). In my opinion, the biggest negative was that we were right off shore at Coral World in St. Thomas, and there wasn't a whole lot to see. We saw more snorkeling in Punta Cana. So, I would like to scuba to see the variety of ocean life.

A big reason I think we should do the Discover class first is to make sure I don't mind carting around an oxygen tank. I also had issues with the weights while doing snuba. That was aggravating.

I will definitely want a DM to go out with us! I'm sure experience will bring confidence, so I need several experiences first!
 
One thing about the Discover Scuba course: It doesn't give you any certification, or any credit towards certification. So next time you go diving, you'll either have to do another Discover Scuba course, or do your full open water cert at this time.
 
Heatherly, it's decision time, because whatever you decide, you'll want the time to schedule it effectively. You only have a few days in Cancun so have little or no slack, if you just show up and the folks you hope to dive with are booked up.

If you decide to get certified in Ohio, either fully or as a referral course, when you get to cancun you'll be doing boat dives with a divemaster or an instructor. Generally, students use the same boat, but they and their instructor do the dives separate from the regular divers. If you go as a certified diver, you'll do the dives as part of a group with the DM functioning as a guide, and knowing you're new, keeping an extra eye out for your safety.

If you decide to put off certification for now, you can always get in a Resort course and some operators will offer a discount if you want to do a second one during the same trip. Cancun resort dives can be from shore or from a boat depending on the operator. You'll get less dive time, and still be uncertified divers when it's over, but it's an option. Kinda like tasting the food without sitting down to a meal. Borrowing someones basic instruction manual this fall, may help you better know what to expect, but the teaching part of a resort course is generally pretty skimpy.

Either way, whatever you decide or before you decide, take a close look at your schedule and options, and talk to your LDS, in case he has first hand knowledge of the various operators in Cancun. I'm more familiar with the folks in Cozumel but if you PM me I'll give you a few names in Cancun.

Lastly, if it'll help you with the decision, ask your LDS if he's willing to let you do a pool session in Ohio, to get a feel for the equipment involved and also you can discuss the total commitment in both time and money at that time.

Whatever you decide, have a great trip, and I hope to hear from you after you're a diver. dF
 
Ok...thanks for all of the information! New question...Discover Scuba course. Tell me more about that. I'm going to research it myself, but you all probably know the details. We want to be certified, but we may have difficulty since we are pressed for time.

That actually opens up another possibility - hybrid training, if money is not a major concern. My daughter did that, accidentally, and it worked out well.

She had completed the classroom work and most of the pool work, but just wasn't confident enough in the water for her instructor and I to think it was a good thing to turn her loose in the ocean without close attention.

After she had paddled around with a snorkel in the shore area, she took the Discover Scuba course - on top of the regular OW work she had already done. That allowed her to dive for the remainder of the trip under the supervision of a divemaster. With the slower entry into the water and the personal attention of a divemaster, I was comfortable with her diving. If you go that route, you should have plenty of time to enjoy the diving - and motivation to finish the cert when you get back home.

When we got back home, she did one more pool session - much more confident in the water, and did her OW check-out dives in teh 40-55 degree quarries in Ohio.
 
If you are pressed for time, I agree with others, take the didactic and pool portions in Ohio and do your open water in Cancun. You don't want to waste time in cancun sitting in a class starting the course. We usually dive with MayanAqua dive (see my link below) You have to watch in cancun or anywhere in MX, not everyone gives you personal attention and not every boat is properly stocked with emergency equipment. Ben at Mayan Aqua dive does. They are awesome and very attentive. They will pick you up at your hotel and drop you back off. (most of them you have to take public transportation) You have to be very careful, this is not like snuba or snorkeling - you are essentially on life support system. There is nothing worth cutting corners and going cheep or not fully evaluating dive instructors/boats when it comes to your life. You need to feel comfortable with your dive instructors, IMHO. Once you have done your homework you can sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

Jill
 
One thing about the Discover Scuba course: It doesn't give you any certification, or any credit towards certification. So next time you go diving, you'll either have to do another Discover Scuba course, or do your full open water cert at this time.

That's not completely true - if you complete the OW training within a year, you do get credit for the dive or dives. At least that is what I was told - I didn't make it in the year but the dive shop in Belize and the dive shop here both told me that they would have qualified.

The main advantage of doing a Discover dive is to find out if you even like it before spending 500.00 on certification. I did snuba and didn't like it because I was tethered - tried the Discover dive and LOVED the freedom to go a little deeper than the 15 - 20 feet the tether allows you to go. The reefs we dived in Belize were max 28' but it is a whole different experience. Life got in the way so it was 15 months before I could take the OW course - and now I've completed the AOW.....but it all started with snuba and Discover. It is a personal choice - I needed to take baby steps and wanted to make sure I enjoyed it before plunking a fortune into it.

Whatever you decide to do - have a great time! I am jealous - it is beautiful!
 
Gosh, you guys are awesome! Thanks for your patience! Novice idiots like me tend to get on my nerves.

I think we are definitely going to try a Discover class. We want to make sure we love it before we dive in full force! I guess we will make our decision from there which route we want to go.

Which lead me to yet another question...

donFrancisco mentioned resort courses. Any more info on that? I guess it may be a good option, but I am wondering if we will even be able to go deep enough to see anything good. We will be staying at the Aventura Spa Palace. Anyone been there or know if they offer courses?

And...if we go on vacation on the coast somewhere, we could always do our referral dive there, right?
 
The discover dive is a great way to wet your apetitite. The same caveate applies to a discover dive as any other dive instruction however. Not everyone takes to breathing with their face in the water from the get go. If you have a history of snorkeling the prognosis is very good. Forgive me for being new to this thread if you have mentioned this. For this reason I suggest doing a discover dive with a local trusted instructor before taking a "resort dive".

A resort dive is like a discover dive on steroids and in those destinations you don't need to go deep at all to see awesome stuff. An instructor or DM will manage things for you and it's an easy way to get hooked on diving.

I would argue against a resort course where you try to get certified at a resort while on vavation. These are fast track courses and do not deal well with anyone that has issues. On top of that they will not prepare you well for local diving.

Being a realist however on August 5th I would suggest doing the discover dive. There is still time to do the full OW course locally before the water is cold. If that does not fit for you do the academiocs and pool work locally and take a referral to get certified and enjoy some warm water diving over the winter. In the spring of 2009 Have your local instructor take you on mock certificvation dives locally as your orientation to cold water diving. That will give you the best of al worlds and you will have a solid foundation.

Good luck,
Pete
 
I think we are definitely going to try a Discover class.

Which lead me to yet another question...

donFrancisco mentioned resort courses. Any more info on that?
And...if we go on vacation on the coast somewhere, we could always do our referral dive there, right?

A "resort course" is a condensed course over an hour or so in a pool at the resort. It is only good for the time you are on vacation (I think a max of 2 weeks) and usually is costly. I would save your money, do a discovery class (usually the $10. for that is deducted off a full OW class) see if you like it, if so go to OW cert. Yes, if you do your classroom/pool at home you can do a referral anywhere.

Good Luck
Jill
 
Sounds great. I think we need to definitely find a Discover class.

I LOVED snuba! I loved being able to be under water. Without having any training, I think I did well (the others in my group had great difficulty). In my opinion, the biggest negative was that we were right off shore at Coral World in St. Thomas, and there wasn't a whole lot to see. We saw more snorkeling in Punta Cana. So, I would like to scuba to see the variety of ocean life.

A big reason I think we should do the Discover class first is to make sure I don't mind carting around an oxygen tank. I also had issues with the weights while doing snuba. That was aggravating.

I will definitely want a DM to go out with us! I'm sure experience will bring confidence, so I need several experiences first!
Why I ask about the discover.
It is sounding like you are headed to a tropical destination with a total 3 days to play there. And like a plan to snorkel there, want to dive, discovered that takes training.

Training that is a bit complicated and it’s not exactly a fun way at that time of year at home to get experienced re comfort once out on your own at tropical vacation destination. And the cost may be a challenge as well to your finances.

I do not know the details with Discover Scuba dives. My impression is you get minimal instruction then get to dive where seeing it would cool to be diving – below amongst the cool stuff vs snorkeling above it.

I see Discover dives it in a tropical dive location as a quick and dirty so to speak way to get dive - here it would be two boat dives - in open water in so few days. And doing what we consider babycake dives and requiring high quality babysitting. Would take another similar thing I expect to get in another two dives. You’ll pay for both, likely in same place and still not be certified.

I think I’d have been real happy with Discover dives here, except yearning for what a certified diver gets’s to do. Living at a dive destination I skipped Discover and went for learning a sport I could do year round, with many sites and plenty of shore dives.

I’m not against getting full certified before vacation. I’d expect though, getting the open water dives in, in the three days of vacation a bit unfulfilling. Like TS&M describes, mine were mostly learning with little on the funner part of diving.

If you did go the OW dives in Cancun I’d definitely get them on Private just the two of you. Skills are supervised one on one and a lot of the tank of air is used waiting for the rest of the class members to work thru their problems- one on one.

Your weight issues will not improve without experience. Typically inexperienced divers are overweighed to keep them down as the first feet under water are the most dangerous. It is real easy to ascend too rapidly, a bad thing to do. And I expect this type of education is one of the things addressed in certification and skipped in a discover. One of the reasons/examples a discover is considered a ‘trust me dive’. You will be trusting the instructor to keep you safe with no knowledge how or why.

I’m not against trust me dives in general, a certified diver can just as easily screw up (oops, wrong button) as doing a trust me dive. But at least, with an attentive instructor (on a discover dive) babysitting akin to walking along a busy street with a 4 YO, they will stop you before running out into traffic and keep you on the sidewalk.

Maybe someone will chime in exactly what a Discover Dive is like in your vacation location – if the dives are good sites.
 

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