How many actually use diver buoy or surface marker buoy?

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In the pocket of my bc sits my dsmb. Do I use it on every dive. NOPE. Why?
Common sense really.
Boat dives I prefer to head back to the boat and do my safety stop around the anchor line.
Shore dives I'll mooch around at 5.0m then head for shore.
So that leaves for me boat dives where exit is away from the boat.Then yep shoot the dsmb with 10m of line on it and a yellow bead tied at 6.0m
The bead is for night dives so I can feel 6.0m. Makes the safety stop easy.
 
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Well I know. That's why I don't drag it around. Read my post completely. I hate towing a float. While I'm diving the SMB/flag stays in my pocket until I think I need to deploy it. Towing is not possible it'll lay flat on the surface. For those that don't want to tow a float it is the "best".

I can't tow one because of kelp.
 
Me too, RI law only requires a flag no mention of a float. I've never been approached in MA about a flag or the lack of one.

Are you sure?
§ 46-22-24 Scuba divers, skin diving, or snorkeling – Warning flags. :: CHAPTER 46-22 Regulation of Boats :: Title 46 Waters and Navigation :: 2010 Rhode Island General Laws :: Rhode Island General Laws :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia

Bolded by me... the flag shall be lit at night? :confused:
2010 Rhode Island Code
Title 46 Waters and Navigation
CHAPTER 46-22 Regulation of Boats
§ 46-22-24 Scuba divers, skin diving, or snorkeling – Warning flags.



§ 46-22-24 Scuba divers, skin diving, or snorkeling – Warning flags. – (a) Any person scuba diving, skin diving, or snorkeling in an area where power or motor boats are operated, shall place a warning flag on a buoy at a place of his or her submergence, the flag to be at least twelve by twelve inches (12" s 12") with a white stripe running from the diagonal corners which stripe shall be one quarter (1/4) as wide as the flag, or conspicuously flown upon a boat which he or she is then using in the area, in which case the flag shall be at least eighteen by eighteen inches (18" s 18") and with a white stripe running from one upper corner to a diagonal lower corner, which stripe shall be one quarter (1/4) as wide as the flag itself. The flag shall be in place only while diving operations are in progress and, during the hours between sunset and sunrise, this flag shall be illuminated by a light shining on the flag. Motorboats shall not be operated within fifty feet (50') of any flag as above described. No person shall be in violation of this section if he or she travels within fifty feet (50') of a scuba diver or snorkeler who is in fact obstructing navigation.

(b) Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be subject to a fine of not more than fifty dollars ($50.00).
(c) However, any person using the above scuba diving, snorkel diving, or skin diving flag with the intention of obstructing navigation shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall also be subject to a fine of not more than fifty dollars ($50.00).
History of Section.
(P.L. 1973, ch. 112, § 1; P.L. 1974, ch. 233, § 1; P.L. 1978, ch. 186, § 2.)


Disclaimer: These codes may not be the most recent version. Rhode Island may have more current or accurate information. We make no warranties or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information contained on this site or the information linked to on the state site. Please check official sources.
these regulations are not talking about dragging a dive float around with you ... the key phrases here are ... "shall place a warning flag on a buoy at a place of his or her submergence ... OR conspicuously flown upon a boat which he or she is then using in the area"
There is no requirement to tow the marker with you (as is the case in other places like Florida)

as I said, glad I dont have to deal with towing a flag, and you couldn't do that here anyway with kelp
 
NJ is much more specific and you need to tow a flag -

[SIZE=+1]New Jersey General Diving Regulations[/SIZE]
The NJ Dive Council has posted signs at Shark River Inlet, Manasquan Inlet and Maclearie Park (Belmar) with the diving rules, please obey them.
[FONT=&amp]*** [/FONT][FONT=&amp]THIS FILE INCLUDES ALL REGULATIONS ADOPTED AND PUBLISHED THROUGH THE [/FONT][FONT=&amp]*** [/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]*[/FONT]** NEW JERSEY REGISTER, VOL. 47, NO. 3, February 2, 2015 ***
TITLE 13. LAW AND PUBLIC SAFETY
CHAPTER 82. BOATING REGULATIONS
SUBCHAPTER 3. OPERATIONAL REGULATIONS​
§ 13:82-3.17 Diving and swimming
(a) General provisions with respect to diving and swimming are as follows:​
1. Underwater diving with or without an underwater apparatus is permitted in all navigable waters in New Jersey unless otherwise prohibited in this section.​
2. Any person while diving shall mark his or her position with a buoyed flag:​
i. Such flag shall be displayed so that it is visible all around the horizon from a buoy, float, boat or other floating object;​
ii. Such flag shall be a minimum of 14 inches by 16 inches, shall be rigid to enhance visibility and shall be a red background with a white diagonal stripe running from one corner to the other.​
3. No person shall operate a vessel within 50 feet of the buoyed flag.​
4. No person shall display a flag at times other than when diving is in progress.​
5. No person shall swim or dive in a narrow, confined or improved channel or in a marked fairway, under a bridge, or impede, obstruct or interfere with passage of watercraft therein.​
6. No diver shall surface more than 25 feet from the buoyed flag except in an emergency.​
(b) Provisions for Manasquan Inlet are as follows:
1. Underwater diving shall be permitted in the Manasquan Inlet only within 50 feet from the stone jetties and bulkheads.​
2. Underwater diving is permitted only in the area east of an imaginary line drawn from Ocean Avenue, Point Pleasant Beach, extended to a point across the inlet at First Avenue, Manasquan.​
(c) Provisions for Barnegat Inlet are as follows:
1. Except as provided in this subsection, no person or persons shall, while engaged in goggle fishing, spearfishing or skin diving, enter into any navigable channel or approach within 200 feet of any boat anchored or underway within the water adjacent to the land areas of the Borough of Barnegat Light.​
2. No person shall dive in any of the waters of the Barnegat Inlet channel.​
3. Skin and Scuba diving is permitted from the north and south jetties, but no person shall dive further than 25 feet from the rock jetty or bulkhead within the inlet.​
4. No person shall dive within Barnegat Inlet between 8:00 A.M. and 5:00 P.M. on Saturdays and Sundays from June 1 to September 30.​
5. A diver shall mark his or her position with a float and skin diver's flag.​
6. Only "buddy diving" shall be permitted in the Barnegat Inlet.​
7. Recreational diving is prohibited within 100 feet of the north monument.​
8. Recreational diving is prohibited within the inlet when the current is at flood.​
(d) Provisions for Shark River Inlet are as follows:
1. Underwater diving is permitted in the Shark River Inlet in that area which lies east of a line extending from the northwest end of A Street in Belmar to the southeast end of First Avenue in Avon.​
2. Divers shall stay within 25 feet of the jetties and bulkheads in the area described.​
3. A diver shall mark his or her position with a float and skin diver's flag.​
4. No diver shall surface more than 15 feet from the buoyed flag except in an emergency.​
5. No underwater diving shall be permitted in Shark River Inlet between the hours of 8:00 A.M. and 5:30 P.M. during the period each year commencing May 1 terminating October 1.

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So I was slow at work today - "If there is a need for the Rhode Island State Police Marine Unit, please contact the Wickford Barracks at (401) 294-3371 or (401) 444-1064." I called - they were very specific - you need to tow a flag - I asked if you could just mark your entry point with a flag - answer was tow a flag for safety - I did not ask about any fines...
 
I am inflating my closed DSMB with an additional low pressure house but I have never seen a video showing the procedure. I have seen dozens of videos on youtube to no avail. Anyone has a reference? Thanks
 
NJ is much more specific and you need to tow a flag -

[SIZE=+1]New Jersey General Diving Regulations[/SIZE]
The NJ Dive Council has posted signs at Shark River Inlet, Manasquan Inlet and Maclearie Park (Belmar) with the diving rules, please obey them.
*** THIS FILE INCLUDES ALL REGULATIONS ADOPTED AND PUBLISHED THROUGH THE ***
*** NEW JERSEY REGISTER, VOL. 47, NO. 3, February 2, 2015 ***
TITLE 13. LAW AND PUBLIC SAFETY
CHAPTER 82. BOATING REGULATIONS
SUBCHAPTER 3. OPERATIONAL REGULATIONS​
§ 13:82-3.17 Diving and swimming
(a) General provisions with respect to diving and swimming are as follows:
1. Underwater diving with or without an underwater apparatus is permitted in all navigable waters in New Jersey unless otherwise prohibited in this section.
2. Any person while diving shall mark his or her position with a buoyed flag:
i. Such flag shall be displayed so that it is visible all around the horizon from a buoy, float, boat or other floating object;
ii. Such flag shall be a minimum of 14 inches by 16 inches, shall be rigid to enhance visibility and shall be a red background with a white diagonal stripe running from one corner to the other.
3. No person shall operate a vessel within 50 feet of the buoyed flag.
4. No person shall display a flag at times other than when diving is in progress.
5. No person shall swim or dive in a narrow, confined or improved channel or in a marked fairway, under a bridge, or impede, obstruct or interfere with passage of watercraft therein.
6. No diver shall surface more than 25 feet from the buoyed flag except in an emergency.
(b) Provisions for Manasquan Inlet are as follows:
1. Underwater diving shall be permitted in the Manasquan Inlet only within 50 feet from the stone jetties and bulkheads.
2. Underwater diving is permitted only in the area east of an imaginary line drawn from Ocean Avenue, Point Pleasant Beach, extended to a point across the inlet at First Avenue, Manasquan.
(c) Provisions for Barnegat Inlet are as follows:
1. Except as provided in this subsection, no person or persons shall, while engaged in goggle fishing, spearfishing or skin diving, enter into any navigable channel or approach within 200 feet of any boat anchored or underway within the water adjacent to the land areas of the Borough of Barnegat Light.
2. No person shall dive in any of the waters of the Barnegat Inlet channel.
3. Skin and Scuba diving is permitted from the north and south jetties, but no person shall dive further than 25 feet from the rock jetty or bulkhead within the inlet.
4. No person shall dive within Barnegat Inlet between 8:00 A.M. and 5:00 P.M. on Saturdays and Sundays from June 1 to September 30.
5. A diver shall mark his or her position with a float and skin diver's flag.
6. Only "buddy diving" shall be permitted in the Barnegat Inlet.
7. Recreational diving is prohibited within 100 feet of the north monument.
8. Recreational diving is prohibited within the inlet when the current is at flood.
(d) Provisions for Shark River Inlet are as follows:
1. Underwater diving is permitted in the Shark River Inlet in that area which lies east of a line extending from the northwest end of A Street in Belmar to the southeast end of First Avenue in Avon.
2. Divers shall stay within 25 feet of the jetties and bulkheads in the area described.
3. A diver shall mark his or her position with a float and skin diver's flag.
4. No diver shall surface more than 15 feet from the buoyed flag except in an emergency.
5. No underwater diving shall be permitted in Shark River Inlet between the hours of 8:00 A.M. and 5:30 P.M. during the period each year commencing May 1 terminating October 1.

********
So I was slow at work today - "If there is a need for the Rhode Island State Police Marine Unit, please contact the Wickford Barracks at (401) 294-3371 or (401) 444-1064." I called - they were very specific - you need to tow a flag - I asked if you could just mark your entry point with a flag - answer was tow a flag for safety - I did not ask about any fines...

Well of course they want you to tow a flag, but that is not how the law is written. They can't enforce something that is not law. Anyway how would they know when you exit the water carrying a flag on an SMB whether or not you were towing it? How do they prove you weren't towing it? You'd have to be the only diver and they won't even be there if only one diver is in the water. They like busy Sunday afternoons and crowds of divers! If they see a diver carrying a flag out of the water they are happy.

By the way are you trying to make trouble for me? Called the RI state police! If they figure out their law is faulty they might get it changed, which will F me. :wink:
 
By the way are you trying to make trouble for me? Called the RI state police! If they figure out their law is faulty they might get it changed, which will F me. :wink:

Lol - no way - I hope to connect one day and dive up there with you and others. But I was curious - MA and NJ seem to be the same must drag a flag which is really where most of my diving is - I was genuinely interested. :D
 
Lol - no way - I hope to connect one day and dive up there with you and others. But I was curious - MA and NJ seem to be the same must drag a flag which is really where most of my diving is - I was genuinely interested. :D


It's probably not in the dive flag law but the lobster regs in MA require the permit number to be on the divers float and tank.

Come on up for a dive, you can tow the flag! :)
 
I carry 4 (FOUR) DSMB's and one gets used on every dive unless coming up the anchor line.

We dive off boats in open ocean in areas with no other boats so required for the pick up boat to see you.

All launched pre safety stop.

Primary is crack bottle dsmb - it has a DIN fitting so you can charge it directly off your tank pre dive. I travel with it by taking valve off, I wash it internally between trips. I swear by it and love it

Have back up DSMB which can be orally inflated, or from Octo.

Have yellow emergency DSMB

Have a 10' which would is inflated at the surface if we are blow off the site or a distance from the boat

Al have radar reflectors and attachments for cylume sticks in low light conditions at surface (yes carry two of those too)

I use finger spools but have a reel which I can clip on if I need to launch from the deep

All my lines have the 1st 5m line in white then the rest in coloured (orange as that was what I got) so easy to see the 5m mark

You can inflate using your exhaust gas. Tilt your head to one side holding you Dsmb over it. Good for depth and you don't need to dis attach your spare Octo - quite fun too.

My buddy has same set up.
 
All my lines have the 1st 5m line in white then the rest in coloured (orange as that was what I got) so easy to see the 5m mark

I like that idea, I will chop off 5M + a bit from my yellow line and orange line and swap them around :D

I only carry two DSMBs and dive in the same waters as Diving Dubai, I also carry two finger spools.
 
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