How do you like this setup? (Single Tank-Warm water)

[SirBubbleHead]

I apologize; I missed your post where you said you were ditching the dry suit and going with a smaller tank. I'd still be careful, though -- my 5 mil suit is 8 pounds positive in fresh water, which means a bit more in salt. Add 7 pounds negative for a full tank and a couple of pounds for regulators and other gear, and you're very close to the 18 lb lift.

Personally, I'd have gone with a standard 30 lb singles wing, which would give you the flexibility to move to a dry suit and/or larger tank later, if you want to do so. But that's me. I dove my 30 lb wing in the tropics in a wetsuit for quite a while before I got the little wing, and it worked just fine.

And for the person who asked the question, and for ZKY . . . I can hold the Superman position perfectly well in a wetsuit (in fact, sometimes it's easier!) I dive a dry suit in the tropics because I get cold in a wetsuit, and I don't like standing on the deck of a boat in the wind when I'm sopping wet, no matter how warm the weather is. We dive dry in the 75 degree caves because we're in the water almost three hours. I don't know anyone who uses a dry suit in preference to a wetsuit just to manage their trim.

No problemo at all' i love reading your post. As for, i need a dry too hold trim.....laughable! Again sounds like soap box talk too me.....too be expected i guess on forums. (from someone else, not the person i quoted)

If all these people that keep saying "know one" uses a 30-30 in tropical conditions, they need to find something called google, and read up on the reviews from people that do use it in most conditions.

I put the dry into my org. plan, but failed to think of one thing.......the exact reason i post too get opioions.


Durability of a a dry suit......I will be spending allot of time diving for Trops' and bugs. in all type of waters' This kinda work as pointed out to me, would be tourture on a drysuit....so wet it is.

If i was doing str8 open water diving, 5+ days a week (no collecting work)
and i was already in a 5mm.....i would be looking @ a tropic dry suit in a heart beat. nuff said its my opinions....


For all the people that tell me i should not solo dive in 30-40 ft, dont care. After i did my open water years ago......i dove with a few diffent people collecting tropic's.....and i did multi solo beach dives off of the coast of S. FL also....most of the time in under 30'.......I had my kit and a spare air.....never once even worried about diving in such shallow water alone....Check tides....swim out to 2nd reef, dive, and swim on the bottom in.....Its macho crap for someone too tell me this is risking my life....its 20-30 40 ft (mos tof the time shallower)......If my kits blows up, i get sucked into a crap hole, and die...my time is up!

130cf and a pony bottle n 30-40 ft? whats so hard too understand.....If your huff'n around full speed trying to net/slurp trop's.....you burn air fast...the 19cf is for a case were your whole system has a complete failure, and free flows out........We know how often thats going to happen right.....And if it happends, ditch the rig on the bottom, and use the 19cf too swim up......I would like to hear a senerio in 20'-40' were having a light weight hog rig with a 19cf cant HELP save you?

I will tell you, medical condition......And no amount of gear is going to help if your not fit too dive....

So i don't put much weight into diving solo in 20-40' is some kinda death act.....Its just the people spewing that info. (on the ole soap box)trying to say..."im good enough too dive solo your not, and i'm going to let the whole forum know it as much as i can....Clowns.....

So as of now im purchasing the following stuff

Ebay: Looking for a good deal on a mk20/25 250v reg set....if not, i will buy the HOG 2 tank set for around 580.00 smoking deal....

I will be buying the oxy cheq ultra lite backpack system w/a 30# wing

Will plan on renting 100CF or lower steel tanks before i buy... to get it right.

I have a sit on top kayak already for beach dives

And a Merino wool elast'i wetsuit in 3 or 5 mm not sure yet.....Leaning towards 3mm.. when i get the 30-30 later on. for deeper dives in dub's i should be about set in protection options for S fl diving.

Please: I really dont need to hear anymore on if I should solo or not, i did...allot.....i will....and i will be as safe as i can be for those conditions..

Thxs too the people who gave good opinions on my dive kit purchase...really good info!

Not soo much for the internet divers, that cant even stay on subject....
I would tell you too your face 'hug a set' .....no need on the net' just please save the lecture for a snook... if you ever really dive deep enough too see one! i do and its solo too! lmao

 

[PfcAJ]

you've apparently got it all figured out.

 

[SirBubbleHead]

you've apparently got it all figured out.

when it comes to what i need too buy to get started..yes i do thxs.....

With help of a few others, with good points....the other riff raff is what people want to focus on let emm....i got what i want...a good starting config...and a list too buy.

 

[mdax]

You do realize that some of the folks giving you free advice in this thread have thousands of dives, many of them to depths that you can't get to without helium, right?

I know most people only value advice based on what they pay for it, however your last response seemed to indicate that you have lots figured out while it's obvious to most on the thread that you could greatly benefit by really digging into the details of the advice you've been given.

Some of these folks have either pulled out dead bodies or been on site while it's being done, I don't think advice to take solo diving more seriously than you are posting is macho at all....however i concede that it's almost impossible to get through to a <30 year old male, we were there once also, and realize that it's hard to step back and do rigorous self analysis.
It's one reason why women make better divers...but that's a whole separate thread.

 

[syntaxerrorsix]

You do realize that some of the folks giving you free advice in this thread have thousands of dives, many of them to depths that you can't get to without helium, right?

I know most people only value advice based on what they pay for it, however your last response seemed to indicate that you have lots figured out while it's obvious to most on the thread that you could greatly benefit by really digging into the details of the advice you've been given.

Some of these folks have either pulled out dead bodies or been on site while it's being done, I don't think advice to take solo diving more seriously than you are posting is macho at all....however i concede that it's almost impossible to get through to a <30 year old male, we were there once also, and realize that it's hard to step back and do rigorous self analysis.
It's one reason why women make better divers...but that's a whole separate thread.

Surely you jest. I had it all worked out in 50 dives

 

[Splitlip]

You do realize that some of the folks giving you free advice in this thread have thousands of dives, many of them to depths that you can't get to without helium, right?

I know most people only value advice based on what they pay for it, however your last response seemed to indicate that you have lots figured out while it's obvious to most on the thread that you could greatly benefit by really digging into the details of the advice you've been given.

Some of these folks have either pulled out dead bodies or been on site while it's being done, I don't think advice to take solo diving more seriously than you are posting is macho at all....however i concede that it's almost impossible to get through to a <30 year old male, we were there once also, and realize that it's hard to step back and do rigorous self analysis.
It's one reason why women make better divers...but that's a whole separate thread.

There is a reason auto insurance rates are so much higher for younger male drivers.

It's interesting that the older we get, the more precious life becomes. You would think it should be the other way around.
But that too is for a different thread.

 

[DaleC]

You are Awesome dude! But I have to admit I'm a little suspicious when someone has the skills all figured out but needs to ask on a forum what others think of their equipment wish list.

I wonder how long one sits on the bottom at 30-40 feet while a 130 drains from a failure before deciding to swim up and why one would ditch their rig to do so. I suddenly feel ripped off in regards to my training. What else haven't they taught me?

I would also like to hear which particular mechanical failure could occur in 30-40' that a 19cuft pony would solve. I obviously have a lot to learn because the only failure I can think of is human error - neglect to monitor ones gas supply, which with a 130 at shallow depths is a special kind of dumb.

And FWIW, I dive one wing, an Apexs 40# for both single and double tanks and perhaps side mount (tonight) - if I don't post back you will know that didn't work out so well.

... I'm OK!

 

[SirBubbleHead]

You are Awesome dude! But I have to admit I'm a little suspicious when someone has the skills all figured out but needs to ask on a forum what others think of their equipment wish list.

I wonder how long one sits on the bottom at 30-40 feet while a 130 drains from a failure before deciding to swim up and why one would ditch their rig to do so. I suddenly feel ripped off in regards to my training. What else haven't they taught me?

I would also like to hear which particular mechanical failure could occur in 30-40' that a 19cuft pony would solve. I obviously have a lot to learn because the only failure I can think of is human error - neglect to monitor ones gas supply, which with a 130 at shallow depths is a special kind of dumb.

And FWIW, I dive one wing, an Apexs 40# for both single and double tanks and perhaps side mount (tonight) - if I don't post back you will know that didn't work out so well.

... I'm OK!

haha, i like your wit.....

Only thing i can think of besides a "special kinda dumb" is if the tank blew off a valve.......and the tank went zero really fast......and the only reason i can think to ditch the system is if the webbing blew apart right after the tank blew off the valve?

Before i dive solo, i will make sure my kit can be swam' up. that will have
a big effect on what tanks i use solo...I also dive off a kayak.....when i dive i keep the kayak close by 'moving the anchor with me'
This gives me a anchor line also......i might just keep the 19CF on the anchor clipped, and the anchor within 10' of me at all times. That gives me
my tank, and a 19cf at all times, and a line too the surface......On days that the current is too strong to swim 'up stream', i wont be solo'n!


Wouldn't be shocked to have some guy come tell me i should run a spool line from the anchor too my hunting spot 10 ft away...next


It comes to a point, were you have to stop begin a puss' and realize
that if you die......in 30-40' with 100cf+ of air, and back up 19CF, with a dam boat 30' from your head.....and a line too swim up too find it, that God has just punched your number....and no amount of training is going to save ya!







Just wanted a 3rd-4th opinion on my selections. Only thing really i changed from org. idea....thxs to the help of a few...

From dry to a wet suit
Went down a little in tank size around 100cf...
Went up from a 18# to a 30#

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You do realize that some of the folks giving you free advice in this thread have thousands of dives, many of them to depths that you can't get to without helium, right?

I know most people only value advice based on what they pay for it, however your last response seemed to indicate that you have lots figured out while it's obvious to most on the thread that you could greatly benefit by really digging into the details of the advice you've been given.

Some of these folks have either pulled out dead bodies or been on site while it's being done, I don't think advice to take solo diving more seriously than you are posting is macho at all....however i concede that it's almost impossible to get through to a <30 year old male, we were there once also, and realize that it's hard to step back and do rigorous self analysis.
It's one reason why women make better divers...but that's a whole separate thread.

I listen to people that say something usefull....if a post is filled with 100% dis-respect with no mention about the subject, you need to just step off the soap box and move on.....like your post and a few others too!


Did i make a thread asking if i should solo dive? NO
I made a thread asking if my new gear list could be better.....

Please all these people who feel a need in life to hate' please bend at the waist and kiss my ass.....

This thread is about my equipment list not your opinion if i should dive or not......

MODS..do your Job! This thread is about my equipment.......and these off topic trolls are taking over. I request anyone that posts off topic be deleted from my thread!

 

[TSandM]

When you make a post on a forum like this, everything that you say can and will be read by a lot of people. Each person who reads it will have his own reactions to what you wrote. On a board like this, you run into a lot of people with a fair amount of experience, and a lot more who have been reading stories of incidents and accidents for quite a while. They may have "hot button" items . . . one of those tends to be solo diving (which is one of the reasons there's a whole, protected, opt-in subforum for the subject). When you combine a post that asks about equipment choices and has what appears to be some bad decisions in it, with someone suggesting they want to solo dive, you raise a lot of antennae.

And just like with any other conversation, you can't control all the responses you get. If you just want gear information, you can read reviews; if you want to interact with other divers, you come here to talk. And when you put yourself out there, you may well get criticized. If that irritates you, then getting information from forums may not be the best choice. I know I have started some threads where I've gotten my butt kicked. You can't take it personally, because it generally isn't personal (with the occasional exception of someone who actually KNOWS you who may get involved in a thread). You can only take the information which is offered and make your own decisions about its value. I generally think that, when there is a large consensus on a topic, it's worth considering that opinion more seriously, but it's still your choice.

 

[SirBubbleHead]

When you make a post on a forum like this, everything that you say can and will be read by a lot of people. Each person who reads it will have his own reactions to what you wrote. On a board like this, you run into a lot of people with a fair amount of experience, and a lot more who have been reading stories of incidents and accidents for quite a while. They may have "hot button" items . . . one of those tends to be solo diving (which is one of the reasons there's a whole, protected, opt-in subforum for the subject). When you combine a post that asks about equipment choices and has what appears to be some bad decisions in it, with someone suggesting they want to solo dive, you raise a lot of antennae.

And just like with any other conversation, you can't control all the responses you get. If you just want gear information, you can read reviews; if you want to interact with other divers, you come here to talk. And when you put yourself out there, you may well get criticized. If that irritates you, then getting information from forums may not be the best choice. I know I have started some threads where I've gotten my butt kicked. You can't take it personally, because it generally isn't personal (with the occasional exception of someone who actually KNOWS you who may get involved in a thread). You can only take the information which is offered and make your own decisions about its value. I generally think that, when there is a large consensus on a topic, it's worth considering that opinion more seriously, but it's still your choice.

Yea, sounds like a i attracted the scuba board drama queen crew, more then a boat full of divers...

Thxs