horizontal ascents

[cdennyb]

The reason for two hoses, was one for the BC Wing, and one for the dry suit. I had a mix in the doubles, was doing some cold water mapping on the bottom and wasn't moving around much. I saved the expensive helium gas for breathing and used the argon for warmth and for the BC if needed. You couldn't figure that out?
As far as the pics go, those are quite old and I have enough gear to outfit three divers. I have a multitude of accessories, all of which DO NOT include a 'spare air' bottle. LoL
I also have video equipment and test equipment which often times require I spend awhile practically motionless to get the shot(s) I want, therefor, not moving makes it even colder, but since most of you are too busy moving your mouth so much without saying anything important, you probably wouldn't understand that concept of physics and thermodynamic heat transfer either.
You guys need to go over to the decostop and chat this up.
I'm done. Back to work.
db

 

[Soggy]

No one is baffled by the idea of argon in the drysuit. What I don't understand is the argon in the wing. It makes zero sense.

You sure have an awfully high opinion of yourself and come across like you are the only one who knows anything, hence some of the hostility here.

 

[Blitz]

Because I frequently catch my wing shivering and begging me for a poorly cunductive gas like argon....

If you are the bettom, you should have a stable amount of gas in your suit. The one or two breath of helium you are wasting by not breathing it should be negligible.

 

[JeffG]

Because I frequently catch my wing shivering and begging me for a poorly cunductive gas like argon....

If you are the bettom, you should have a stable amount of gas in your suit. The one or two breath of helium you are wasting by not breathing it should be negligible.

The amount of helium you use to use your BC is negligible, the foolishness of limiting your gas supply to a BC (to save a few bucks) is unlimited.

 

[Blitz]

Tech gear: uncounted thousands

Dual hose argon set up: $200

21/35: $70

Not knowing how to use what you spent all of that cash on? Freakin' priceless!

 

[rjack321]

Ok Bob, I'll put on my super nice hat...

cdennyb, you might think about "wasting" a tiny bit of helium mix and have some type of redundant bouyancy. So when that little argon bottle runs out unexpectedly one day you're not stuck on the bottom with a full body hicky.

[Oh and at least at my gas dealer helium (300cf=$76) is cheaper than argon (300cf=$82)]

 

[lamont]

Ok Bob, I'll put on my super nice hat...

cdennyb, you might think about "wasting" a tiny bit of helium mix and have some type of redundant bouyancy. So when that little argon bottle runs out unexpectedly one day you're not stuck on the bottom with a full body hicky.

[Oh and at least at my gas dealer helium (300cf=$76) is cheaper than argon (300cf=$82)]

theoretically he could always orally inflate his wing -- although if he got a gulp of the gas inside it he'd have serious issues. it does remove the possibility of using the LP inflator as a third regulator, but that's pretty much a hail mary you should never have to use anyway though...

 

[nereas]

I'm not going to disagree that as a *sole* answer to the question of "why do deco horizontal?" the "because you decompress better" argument is very weak. And it is a little painful to read statements like it alone settles the matter that decompression should be done horizontally.

I'd also agree that its barely hypothesis and more of a conjecture. But at this point decompression is still about 9/10ths voodoo anyway. So, given that there's little downside to decompression horizontally, and there's advantages to your mobility in doing deco horizontally, I find the conjecture that it may have small positive effect on decompression to be worth counting in the plus column.

And I seriously doubt that the converse is true and that vertical decompression could ever be shown to be more effective. The worst is likely to be that there's no effective difference. In which case I'm still not about to switch to vertical decompression...

YMMV.

I can speak for verticle deco. It works quite well without any problems.

Your blood does not pool in your feet, as conjectured.

But the original reason that I resurrected this thread after three years is to point out to Cnidae that drag has nothing to do with it.

So, nobody has seen Cnidae around for those 3 years? Did he take his own advice, and end up drowning? Or something like that?

 

[JimC]

[Oh and at least at my gas dealer helium (300cf=$76) is cheaper than argon (300cf=$82)]

I was about to say, He is cheaper than Ar.. and its not even 100% He in there. This is actually costing you money in addition to being dumb.

 

[rjack321]

Lets just hope the bottom is above his mod.

I don't see orally inflating a set of doubles while 2xnegative from insuffcient gas in the drysuit as too being very effective. Definately not very fast when your plummeting down a wall. In fact, once you get going you may not be able to breath/exhale fast enough to arrest a descent. I wouldn't want to try given the ear drum rupture potential.