HOG D1 Combo vs SP MK25/A700

[UaVaj]

If you can afford the " Best ", why not get it.

The MK25/A700 will take care of you for decades.

The only way that you could have gone " Bigger " is the MK25T/ S600T Titanium!

my last reg was a MK25/S600 titanium (Not for Sale). I did wanted to go titanium again, but this time I wanted a DIN setup. no full titanium DIN. (I wanted the DIN threading titanium too - not available)

plus the chrome of the A700 matched the chrome of the MK25 better. so I skipped the titanium.

 

[Aqua-Andy]

seem like some of you "only read" what you want to read. shame on you.

here it is again. "performance" at depth. mainly at depth of 120' to 180'.

at 33' - even the cheapest of regulator will work fine. at 165' and spearing/wrestling a big fish and huffing n puffing (my typical profile). the sheep of regulator gets separated from the goats of regulator.

some of my buddies (who is starting to dive the same profile) simply do not have the luxury/coin to drop for a "proven" MK25/A700. perhap they can get a HOG instead (if a HOG is up to the task)? perhap a HOG is a poor man's Scubapro. Plus - I could alway switch my trusty MK2+/R295 pony regulator to a HOG.



just link me to the non bias lab type review (for i can not find one - my google skill not cutting it when it comes to HOG objective reviews). me and my buddies are smart enough to decide for ourselves based on the hard numbers. subjective opinions is the blind leading the blind.

sorry if i offended anyone.

Try doing some searching on the Edge forum, I know the breathing tests were posted there before. All the hype over air flow is just that hype. Most of the tank valves we use are only rated for 50scfm. I still can't understand the benefit of a reg that can deliver 300scfm like the MK25 when it can only flow as much as the weakest link in the system. As far as second stages, I love my HOG's, I've had Sherwood Oasis, G250HP, R395 and HOG. I hated the G250HP with a passion right from the first breath, after having the shop play with it many times I finally gave up and sold it. As far as breathing effort, properly tuned I can't tell the difference between the Oasis, R395 and HOG, but the R395 gives me dry mouth (as did the G250HP) the Oasis and HOG are nice and moist(no they don't breath "wet" even in the ocean there is no salt taste to the moisture). Now I have done some work on moorings with my HOG regs, not at 180' though, at 15 to 20. With that said you can get huffing and puffing digging out a 200# mushroom anchor with a shovel and I never felt starved for air.

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Found it, may not be third party but I think it is as good as you will find.
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/edge-gear/309166-hog-bal-second-hog-d1-antsi-results.html

 

[cbm32]

Beat you too it and already posted it Aqua-Andy :cool2:

 

[Aqua-Andy]

Beat you too it and already posted it Aqua-Andy :cool2:

Well if I could find the mooner icon I would give it to you. That's if you already didn't find it first. I really need to learn to type faster.

 

[TSandM]

I don't have any objective testing data, but I can refer you to some folks who are regularly DIVING the regs to those depths . . .

 

[halocline]

Even if you had numbers, they wouldn't mean much in terms of real-world performance. There's only one way to really compare regulators, and that's to use them. There are so many subjective factors that determine our response to regulators that there's no way a machine will give an accurate picture.

Of course, the truth is that ANY decent regulator in good tune will provide PLENTY of air at minimal effort for essentially any diving except extreme depths ad/or conditions. FLow rates on regs like the MK25 (300SCFM) are not remotely possible with a standard scuba tank valve.

Then you have idiotic comments like "why not buy the best" that really illuminate what goes into so many regulator 'debates'; hype and narcissism.

To me, regulator function and performance is a hobby,kind of a sub-hobby to diving, but I'd have absolutely no hesitation using my lowest performing reg on any dive I'm qualified to do.

 

[UaVaj]

All the hype over air flow is just that hype. Most of the tank valves we use are only rated for 50scfm. I still can't understand the benefit of a reg that can deliver 300scfm like the MK25 when it can only flow as much as the weakest link in the system.

this is just my educated guess so anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. most tank valve are rated for 50cfm. that is at 1 atm. under the questioned depth. at 165' (6 atm) due to air being compressed under pressure as it comes thourgh the first stage. is it safe to safe that 50cfm (at surface) is now 300cfm (at 165')?

Now I have done some work on moorings with my HOG regs, not at 180' though, at 15 to 20. With that said you can get huffing and puffing digging out a 200# mushroom anchor with a shovel and I never felt starved for air.

I am sure you already realized this. huffing n puffing at 15' (1.5 atm) is only using 25% the air flow compare to huffing n puffing at 165' (6 atm).

this is subjective, however do you think that one HOG regulator can handle 4 guys huffing n puffing digging out four 200# mushroom anchor at 15'?

 

[eelnoraa]

Are you serious?? At $830 vs $260. What are really trying to compare here?

 

[Jim Lapenta]

Anyone that would try to do something so foolish deserves a visit from darwin.

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[cbm32]

two of us posted the link to some numbers now and you have no comment on them??? Come on
UaVaj