HOG 38lb wing Mid weight doubles?

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mainedvr

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So I bought a hog 38lb wing for a small set of double steel 67s I found. It states the wing is for mid weight double cylinders, what exactly constitutes mid weight doubles. I was thinking HP100s or LP85s but just curious if there is a guideline. I do realize it also makes a difference what else your caring on the dive but lets just say a set of doubles no stages or anything exept SS BPW 8lb.

Thanks
 
if your backplate is actually 8lbs then you must have gotten it via one of the obscure manufacturers since they are usually 6lbs with the harness, but that doesn't really matter.

Buoyancy compensators do two things. Primary goal is to compensate for changes on buoyancy, shocking I know! The second is to potentially float a rig at the surface without you in it, very much a secondary function.

To float the rig at the surface, your lift requirements are as simple as summing up all of the stuff on the rig. Weight of the gas, buoyancy of the tanks with manifold/regs etc. Easiest way to do this is to take a luggage scale and just weigh it with the wing fully deflated when in the water with full tanks. You already have the wing, so you can just fully inflate the wing and make sure it stays at the surface.

Second bit is the sum of the change in buoyancy you expect to see and compensate for. Not sure what the 67's as I have never heard of them, but take the total gas they have and add that to the total amount of lead required to sink your suit. If in a 7mm farmer john, that's a lot. If in a 3mm, not so much. The wetsuit is typically a larger indicator of how big your wing needs to be than the actual tanks themselves as a pair of double 121's that are cave filled *hold 165cf of gas each*, only have a 27lb buoyancy swing from full to empty, but there are a lot of other things going on the necessitate a much larger wing when using those tanks
 
Thanks, I probably should have posted this in the manufactuer threads, I am more curious as to what they consider mid weight cylinders. Double AL 80s LP 85s HP 100's not 120s 130s. Oh and the 67s I have are 1800psi and are great for shore diving, Currently have them apart for my two kids they are lighter than AL 63s and slightly negative at 500psi.
 
again, it doesn't matter what they consider mid weight cylinders. If you are diving a balanced rig *which since you have DIR Practitioner* under your username you should know about, then the cylinder size doesn't matter. More so it the actual tank size is irrelevant because a Worthington HP100 is MUCH more negative than a Faber FX-149 which is basically neutral so the 100 actually requires more wing lift even though it is significantly smaller tank, both in physical dimensions and nominal capacity.
 
again, it doesn't matter what they consider mid weight cylinders. If you are diving a balanced rig *which since you have DIR Practitioner* under your username you should know about, then the cylinder size doesn't matter. More so it the actual tank size is irrelevant because a Worthington HP100 is MUCH more negative than a Faber FX-149 which is basically neutral so the 100 actually requires more wing lift even though it is significantly smaller tank, both in physical dimensions and nominal capacity.

First off I it does matter to me what they consider light to midweight cylinders and who the heck are you to tell me it doesnt matter, maybe not to you and thats fine. Secondly I did not even put DIR practiioner on my title I have tried to take it off since I saw it even though I have taken some GUE courses. And who are you to tell me what matters to me. I appreciate all input, but I asked a question cause it was something I was curious about. If you want to be inflammatory towards my post feel free to keep your input to yourself otherwise answer the question the poster puts in the forum not what you think they should know. I understand what your saying again I wanted to know what they(HOG/EDGE) considered light to midweight doubles, which is why I said I should have posted it in this forum the first time. if you cant answer that then don't post an asnwer. That is why I put the post on Edge/HOG tread as I said several times now.
If I wanted a lesson on a balanced rig (DIR practitioner talk if you didn't know :) ) I would have asked that question which there are plenty of threads about that already. So again thank you and have a nice day.

Oh and I hope I repeated myself enough that maybe you will get what I am asking not what you think I should know.
 
and I will stand by what I posted in that it is highly unlikely they will be able to tell you what they consider light to midweight doubles because the list is incredibly long, and for liability reasons it is unlikely they'll be able to tell you. If they come out and say 85's are perfectly fine to dive with that wing but you are an idiot and dive to 100ft in 85's with a 7mm farmer john in an unbalanced rig and die, and your widow sues them because they said that wing was good for 85's, they are in a lot of trouble. That is why you will rarely see any companies tell you what is compatible with their wings. Good on you if Jack tells you, but if you want to know I'd just call him
 
Ok so let them say that or whatever or nothing at all. If I wanted to know about boyancy and what suits to dive I would have posted that are you just thick or just a forum troll. If I post a question that is what I want answered not what some dive guru or whatever you are thinks I need to know.

And if they did not want that to be questioned they should not have put that in their product description. And the guy Chris at Edge that I have dealt with has always been decent.

Again have a nice day
 
At my 38 lbs agir wing there is a label ,'max 2x10L' . But for me it doesn't matter. It is possible to use it with 2x12L + alu 80 stage .
 
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