FortWorthDiver
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Anyone have anything good, or bad, to say about the 2mm Henderson Neosport Shorty? If not, any other recomendation on a decent 2 or 2/3 shorty that is not priced out of the roof?
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Henderson Neosport Shorty
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The Neosport line is henderson's el cheapo wetsuit line. Its not the best for scuba diving. They are more for watersports activities. They are made of an inferior rubber, and it will crush at depth. Not giving you much warmth, and not lasting that long at all. Yeah, they are cheap. For a reason.
You get what you pay for.
What do you mean by thru the roof??? Henderson's premium neoprene 3mm shorty would sell for around $90. I think thats a reasonable price for a good quality wetsuit. If you dont like paying LDS prices, try Leisure Pro. Just dont expect good customer service...
You get what you pay for.
What do you mean by thru the roof??? Henderson's premium neoprene 3mm shorty would sell for around $90. I think thats a reasonable price for a good quality wetsuit. If you dont like paying LDS prices, try Leisure Pro. Just dont expect good customer service...
WTF? Why would an "inferior rubber" crush any more than a "superior" rubbber?
Dude, WTF...
WTF???
There ARE different grades of neoprene used for wetsuits. The cheap stuff crushes at dpeth. No doubt about it.
The old G231 rubber that Brooks drysuits are made out of, is the toughest neoprene out there, and that wont crush as much. There was a cool demo at one of the local dive shows with a manufacturer that had samples of different types of neoprene and put them in a pressure pot. It was amazing to see how the cheaper rubber just went flat really shallow...
Does that answer your WTF???
Maybe you should realize that you dont know everything...
WTF???
There ARE different grades of neoprene used for wetsuits. The cheap stuff crushes at dpeth. No doubt about it.
The old G231 rubber that Brooks drysuits are made out of, is the toughest neoprene out there, and that wont crush as much. There was a cool demo at one of the local dive shows with a manufacturer that had samples of different types of neoprene and put them in a pressure pot. It was amazing to see how the cheaper rubber just went flat really shallow...
Does that answer your WTF???
Maybe you should realize that you dont know everything...
Then it's more dense, there's less air, and doesn't insulate as much to begin with, right?
A manufacturer makes a wetsuit, and markets it as a 3mm wetsuit.
Another manufacturer makes a wetsuit, and markets it as 3mm also...
Manufacturer #2's wetsuit actually keeps you warmer at depth...
They are both neoprene and they are both 3mm.
What's the difference???
Less air bubbles, more air bubbles, less dense, more dense, flatter bubbles... etc.
Another manufacturer makes a wetsuit, and markets it as 3mm also...
Manufacturer #2's wetsuit actually keeps you warmer at depth...
They are both neoprene and they are both 3mm.
What's the difference???
Less air bubbles, more air bubbles, less dense, more dense, flatter bubbles... etc.
Umm...
I could make a solid (not foam) 3mm neoprene wetsuit and advertise "DOES NOT CRUSH AT DEPTH!" but I'll be laughed at because it weighs 20 pounds, doesn't stretch, and doesn't insulate nearly as well as a 3mm foam wetsuit. The fact that it doesn't crush doesn't mean that it's warmer at 90 feet, which seems to be the conclusion you're drawing.
A wetsuit's insulating qualities come from the air content in the closed cells. Air "crushes" the same no matter what rubber is around it.
Ok, buddy...
YOu dont get it. I dont think you will ever get it.. Im not goin to try to explain it to you...
A wetsuit has to keep the thickness to keep you warm.. The deeper you go with a wetsuit, the less thick it becomes... Which then means, it wont keep you as warm. Havent you ever had a wetsuit for four or five years? It doesnt keep you as warm as when it was brand new. These neosport suits will crush very easily, and then NEVER go back to their original thickness. Thats what happens to wetsuits... The better quality rubber actually weighs a little more and is MORE resistant to permanent crushing...
YOu dont get it. I dont think you will ever get it.. Im not goin to try to explain it to you...
A wetsuit has to keep the thickness to keep you warm.. The deeper you go with a wetsuit, the less thick it becomes... Which then means, it wont keep you as warm. Havent you ever had a wetsuit for four or five years? It doesnt keep you as warm as when it was brand new. These neosport suits will crush very easily, and then NEVER go back to their original thickness. Thats what happens to wetsuits... The better quality rubber actually weighs a little more and is MORE resistant to permanent crushing...
I guess I don't get it, and I guess I'll never comprehend how a wetsuit limits heat transfer.
I apologise for wasting your time
cstreu1026
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My understanding that the higher grades of neoprene used in scuba wetsuits have smaller air bubbles that compress less and their for the neoprene keeps its thickness at depth. the thicker the neoprene the warmer you are ( a 7mm is warmer than a 3mm).
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