Help with go pro 3 underwater settings with red filter, Caribbean, 30-80 ft. Protune?
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Hi Balanus,
Did you use the red filter in shallow water as well? as I just got my gopro 3 with 3 different filters, one for 5meters max, second from 6 to 15meters max then the 3rd which is the red filter for 15+. Also do you have any tips regarding lights and white balance?
Thanks
Did you use the red filter in shallow water as well? as I just got my gopro 3 with 3 different filters, one for 5meters max, second from 6 to 15meters max then the 3rd which is the red filter for 15+. Also do you have any tips regarding lights and white balance?
Thanks
We will be going to the Socorro Islands in a couple of weeks and want to capture the moment (don't we all). I recently upgraded from a GoPro2 to a GoPro3. With my Gopro2 I would shoot in 1080 and sometimes in 960. Honestly, I can't remember what fps I shot in. With the Gopro3 it seems that 1080 / 30fps is going to be my goto setting, as 60 seems to eat up card space and 30 works better for low light (inherent for underwater filming). I will continue to use a Red filter. In the past I would take it on and off, basically just experimenting. My dilemma not is whether or not to use pro tune? If I do opt to use pro tune, I will definitely stick with auto white balance, as I don't want to mess around with all the post editing that Cam Raw requires. If I am way off base on this, someone please let me know.
). I recently upgraded from a GoPro2 to a GoPro3. With my Gopro2 I would shoot in 1080 and sometimes in 960. Honestly, I can't remember what fps I shot in. With the Gopro3 it seems that 1080 / 30fps is going to be my goto setting, as 60 seems to eat up card space and 30 works better for low light (inherent for underwater filming). I will continue to use a Red filter. In the past I would take it on and off, basically just experimenting. My dilemma not is whether or not to use pro tune? If I do opt to use pro tune, I will definitely stick with auto white balance, as I don't want to mess around with all the post editing that Cam Raw requires. If I am way off base on this, someone please let me know.
EL Pistoffo
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30 FPS is fine if you don't contemplate slowing down video speed during editing. If you are going to slow down clips more than just a tad as I often do to extend a scene or hide my shakiness, then higher FPS will give very smooth slo-mo video.
I haven't really noticed any losses due to the lower light sensitivity of 60FPS but then I usually only dive in very clear and bright conditions. Night dives and low-vis/light dives could certainly warrant the lower FPS.
Auto-WB is fine for many. The colors may be a bit off but sometimes it can go way off or flutter from one color shade to another at any moment. I personally go Cam Raw and color correct in post to get the consistent and more accurate color but I don't mind the extra time needed during editing. You can see examples of auto-WB in Yariks video which looks really good:
[video=youtube_share;yvrE8T0usSw]http://youtu.be/yvrE8T0usSw[/video]
and see examples of CamRaw WB after post correction in mine:
[video=vimeo;75675345]https://vimeo.com/75675345[/video]
Its a preference thing.
As far as Pro-Tune, it simply gives you the highest, sharpest quality video the camera could possibly provide. It makes for a great master copy to work with. IT does washout the original video though with a purpose, so you have to apply a Protune preset in GoPro Studio to make it look correct or apply your own contrast/brightness settings. I myself use Pro-Tune but I'm the HI-FI oriented type.
, then higher FPS will give very smooth slo-mo video. I haven't really noticed any losses due to the lower light sensitivity of 60FPS but then I usually only dive in very clear and bright conditions. Night dives and low-vis/light dives could certainly warrant the lower FPS.
Auto-WB is fine for many. The colors may be a bit off but sometimes it can go way off or flutter from one color shade to another at any moment. I personally go Cam Raw and color correct in post to get the consistent and more accurate color but I don't mind the extra time needed during editing. You can see examples of auto-WB in Yariks video which looks really good:
[video=youtube_share;yvrE8T0usSw]http://youtu.be/yvrE8T0usSw[/video]
and see examples of CamRaw WB after post correction in mine:
[video=vimeo;75675345]https://vimeo.com/75675345[/video]
Its a preference thing.
As far as Pro-Tune, it simply gives you the highest, sharpest quality video the camera could possibly provide. It makes for a great master copy to work with. IT does washout the original video though with a purpose, so you have to apply a Protune preset in GoPro Studio to make it look correct or apply your own contrast/brightness settings. I myself use Pro-Tune but I'm the HI-FI oriented type.
Both of your videos are awesome. I can definitely see the difference in color between the two. I have noticed that the auto white balance settings do sometimes freak out on my Gopro. It actually looks like more than one camera took the video sometimes. I think this is due to changes in light. I guess, I realize that I don't understand post editing good enough to use Cam Raw. That is why for now I need to stick with auto. You do have me contemplating 60 fps again. Typically I only bother to shoot video in decent visibility as well (Caribbean diving), thus perhaps minimizing the extra light benefit of 30Fps. Socorro is going to be a little different than the Caribbean. Still good vis though. I have a couple of different systems to reduce shake. Handle, Pole and a home made tray that holds my go pro and a Sola 1200. Of course I pick one before the dive and go with it. The Belize video was shot with just a handle and red filter.[video=youtube;W_ziswhLYug]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ziswhLYug[/video] and the Haliburton Video was shot with the Tray. Sometimes the light is on, sometimes the light is off. One thing I am not sure of, is when using a light, do you leave the filter on, or take it off. So in this video, when using the light sometimes the filter is on, sometimes the filter is off. The only practice I get is when it is game on, so I have to experiment. Of course editing usually takes place several weeks later when I get home.[video=youtube;968i4BnR358]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=968i4BnR358[/video]. If I had a way to review the video on the spot, I could make changes before the next dive.
---------- Post added January 31st, 2014 at 08:01 AM ----------
One other question. How come no one ever mentions 48fps? I would I would think it would give a balance of more light and less shake.
---------- Post added January 31st, 2014 at 08:01 AM ----------
One other question. How come no one ever mentions 48fps? I would I would think it would give a balance of more light and less shake.
EL Pistoffo
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mtbmac,
Generally speaking, the red filter is usually not used in conjunction with lights. Sometimes using them together can be beneficial. At greater depths, the red filter can lose some effectiveness and a light can help bring back some color granted that the illuminated objects are not very close. In the case of penetrating into a wreck or a crevasse where there is little competing ambient light, then the red filter should be removed and only lights used. In very bright conditions under 80-100 FSW, red filter alone is best option.
The 48 FPS question is a valid one. I don't know why it's not popular.
Generally speaking, the red filter is usually not used in conjunction with lights. Sometimes using them together can be beneficial. At greater depths, the red filter can lose some effectiveness and a light can help bring back some color granted that the illuminated objects are not very close. In the case of penetrating into a wreck or a crevasse where there is little competing ambient light, then the red filter should be removed and only lights used. In very bright conditions under 80-100 FSW, red filter alone is best option.
The 48 FPS question is a valid one. I don't know why it's not popular.
EL Pistoffo
Contributor
linked just fine, let's try this.
[video=youtube;hfwyF0uh_Kc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hfwyF0uh_Kc[/video]
EL Pistoffo
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