ROFL! I work in a restaurant and that just made me laugh out loud.PhotoTJ:Bitter, party of one, your table is ready.
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ROFL! I work in a restaurant and that just made me laugh out loud.PhotoTJ:Bitter, party of one, your table is ready.
I bet you use the lines on your boat and when mountain climbing right up to the breaking strength rather than the safe working load, right?lamont:they are constructed to take at least 10,000 fill cycles to around 5000 psi before failing and they must fail in a leak-before-burst failure mode.
Al Mialkovsky:If they aren't filled when full ask them to top them off for you since you paid for a full fill. I have a feeling that putting them back on the hook a couple of times will cure those short hot fills.
Rick Inman:Some people don't care for their LDS. A very few might even hate them. Most people do not hate their LDS.
No, we want to end up with a full fill, not a short fill.
Then be patient.
Most tanks are purchased from their LDS due to shipping costs. That's where I got mine.
Which are not a big money maker because of shipping costs.
No physical risk. There is this new invention called a burst disk. Again, no steel tank has ever exploded. There is much greater risk just driving to the shop.
Can you name ONE time a body part was blown off giving a fill that cools to full? Or even 200psi over. Heck, can you name a tank that caused a missing limb at 500psi over? (Remember, we already established that we're not talking about that one bad batch of ALs.)
It just doesn't happen.
YET.
Rick Inman:Augh! Sick of searching, and wading through old threads to try to find some posts I remember, hence this redundant thread.
Can anyone help me with some hard data on this subject?
I was saying to my LDS last night, about overfills, that it's OK to run my LP Steel Fabers over a couple hundred PSI, so they'll cool to the rated pressure. I said that I had read that there is no record of a Faber steel exploding (it's that old batch of AL). I said that I had read that the only detrimental thing to overfilling a couple hundred PSI is the stress on the steel shortens the life of the tank a bit, but that there was no risk to the LDS to put 2800PSI in my 95, so it will cool to 2640.
They said, can I document my postulations?
Can I? Can anyone show me to some data, or a document that validates what I'm suggesting?
Thanks!!
Not often at least. Not much comfort to the previous owner of the Dive Center of Sebastian, out in the Vero Beach, FL area, who died back in 2001 when a old steel tank blew up while he was filling it. Rusted old steel tank by Voit. Out of hydro.Rick Inman:Can you name ONE time a body part was blown off giving a fill that cools to full? Or even 200psi over. Heck, can you name a tank that caused a missing limb at 500psi over? (Remember, we already established that we're not talking about that one bad batch of ALs.)
It just doesn't happen.
Lil' Irish Temper:If I remember right the tensile strength is different in Europe then the US.
But I think Roak is right about focusing on the word "overfill"
The reason for that goes back to tensile strength. Generally there is a tradeoff between brittleness and tensile strength -- that's why there is a spec that, as strange as it sounds, sets a maximum limit on tensile strength, thereby requiring thicker walls.TX101:Actually, I'm pretty sure it's the wall thickness that's different - ie. tanks over here have thicker walls and are heavier.