Has anybody heard what happened to the inspiration diver.....

[fins wake]

... because here is all this hot air and all these "what-if-the-Martians-kidnap-you-mid-dive"-scenarios and then you end up with ...

The only thing from madmoles statements he hasn't verified is the Inspiration....

... and precisely that was the whole essence from my first thread on.

 

[Tigerscuba]

Some people through the protection of life often forget to live. Is diving dangerous? Is driving I-95 in the midst of 90 year olds dangerous? the answer is yes. Most rational people understand that there are risks involved as in many things we do in our every day lives involve risk. Diving is a managed risk. With proper training, anal retentive gear maintenace and staying in my boundries the risk to me is acceptable. I get so tired of hearing all the bubblers comment on stuff they know nothing about. Rebreathers like autos are only as safe as the person using them. My personal opinion is that in diving in general there are to many untrained people with big wallets buying the gear and paying for a cert. I recently had a guy on my boat that went through an instructor mill and was the worst diver I have ever seen, no boyancy control, no planning skills and this guys teaching. I think we should all take a step back and look at the sport as whole not just the tech arena. People are getting certified in 20' of water. Saftey is your responsibility. When you recieve training it is your job to get the best training available-not the cheapest. It is your job to make absolutely sure your gear is in order. It is your job to make the dive-no-dive call. If the dive is beyond your training dont go! If you dont feel good dont go! If you have ANY doubts dont go. There is no such thing as peer pressure in our sport. Just because your buddy does 160' does'nt mean you have to. I have a friend who has an inspiration as do I. He has about 300 dives on his and has never been below 100'. Thats his zone and who cares. Training and experience are the key, grow slowly and train train train.

Sorry for the rambling, some ignorant guys on a boat really p'd me off today.

 

[jonnythan]

Mverick once bubbled...
ALL DIVING IS DANGEROUS....

Is all diving as dangerous as Tech, Wreck, Cave. Nope, but all diving is dangerous....

And you can disagree STRONGLY all you want... Because you're wrong....

Maybe diving with YOU is dangerous.

What's the occurence of fatal accidents on reefs in the Caribbean for highly trained divers?

What's the occurence of fatal accidents on highways?

 

[Tigerscuba]

the occurance on both is 1to1 if its you or someone you love. I just lost 3 friends in an I-95 accident last week. So maybe that is not the best comparison. My point is that we all must do what we can to minimize the risks. Get proper training, know our gear and do not exceed our training. There of course will be unseen circumstances which cannot be avoided. But I feel a very well trained diver at least has a fighting chance.

 

[Mverick]

Find your own info and hide in your own box....

 

[saturated]

Websters Dictionary

Dan-ger-ous

LIKELY to cause injury, pain ect.; unsafe, perilous

Is Diving dangerous? not according to websters

 

[Mverick]

From Websters dictionary...

Main Entry: dan·ger·ous
Pronunciation: 'dAn-j&-r&s; 'dAn-j&rs, -zhr&s
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
1 : exposing to or involving danger
2 : able or likely to inflict injury or harm
- dan·ger·ous·ly adverb
- dan·ger·ous·ness noun
synonyms DANGEROUS, HAZARDOUS, PRECARIOUS, PERILOUS, RISKY mean bringing or involving the chance of loss or injury. DANGEROUS applies to something that may cause harm or loss unless dealt with carefully <soldiers on a dangerous mission>. HAZARDOUS implies great and continuous risk of harm or failure <claims that smoking is hazardous to your health>. PRECARIOUS suggests both insecurity and uncertainty <earned a precarious living by gambling>. PERILOUS strongly implies the immediacy of danger <perilous mountain roads>. RISKY often applies to a known and accepted danger <shied away from risky investments>.


DANGEROUS applies to something that may cause harm or loss unless dealt with carefully <soldiers on a dangerous mission>.

Unless dealt with carefully.....

So yep, Diving is Dangerous.....

 

[saturated]

Sorry just remembered this post started as the death of a diver. My appologies and prayers for family and friends.

 

[jonnythan]

Mverick once bubbled...
From Websters dictionary...

Main Entry: dan·ger·ous
Pronunciation: 'dAn-j&-r&s; 'dAn-j&rs, -zhr&s
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
1 : exposing to or involving danger
2 : able or likely to inflict injury or harm
- dan·ger·ous·ly adverb
- dan·ger·ous·ness noun
synonyms DANGEROUS, HAZARDOUS, PRECARIOUS, PERILOUS, RISKY mean bringing or involving the chance of loss or injury. DANGEROUS applies to something that may cause harm or loss unless dealt with carefully <soldiers on a dangerous mission>. HAZARDOUS implies great and continuous risk of harm or failure <claims that smoking is hazardous to your health>. PRECARIOUS suggests both insecurity and uncertainty <earned a precarious living by gambling>. PERILOUS strongly implies the immediacy of danger <perilous mountain roads>. RISKY often applies to a known and accepted danger <shied away from risky investments>.


DANGEROUS applies to something that may cause harm or loss unless dealt with carefully <soldiers on a dangerous mission>.

Unless dealt with carefully.....

So yep, Diving is Dangerous.....

So are driving and cutting onions.

The fact is that you don't know the incident rate in SCUBA diving, nor do you know the incident rate in many other every day activities.

To say that diving is dangerous is foolish.

 

[saturated]

bump to that