Question Halcyon Symbios Computer Review?
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I just got one as a key man discount. Currently diving it to build an impression, and I plan on reviewing it here or perhaps a short video. Honesty, I have been disappointed at the start, but again, I only have like 3 dives on it so far.
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But what about the trim guage? This might be just the thing to dial in that last 1/2 a degree towards perfection
You’re making fun of it but when we all trying to learn we didn’t have the proprioception to know what good trim felt like.But what about the trim guage? This might be just the thing to dial in that last 1/2 a degree towards perfection
How so? It helps build skill, it doesn't replace it.
you don't know what you don't know... How many people are like oh my trim is amazing, and they're 30 degrees head up...
Alright I’ll play.
First and foremost I’m not uptight wrt trim, you need to be in whatever trim you need as the situation dictates, the important thing isn’t a specific angle, it’s what works for the situation your in and can you control trim as needed.
I personally can’t see **** when I’m perfectly flat in the water. I’m more flexible than most, i.e., I can lift my head just fine, and I can hold flat trim just fine; you’d have to ask my buddies if I’m lying about that or not.
There are many skills you need to develop a feel for and I think a gauge detracts from one’s ability to learn that feeling or could make you dependent on it in the long run. Examples would include staring at your spg to monitor gas, staring at your compass heading instead of surroundings, or staring at chevrons instead of developing a sense for ascent rates.
FWIW, I wanted to buy my fundies instructor a magnetic base angle finder after class , that dudes eye-crometers had the worst calibration I’ve ever seen based off of his assessment of my classmates (I didn’t get dinged a single time for my trim.)
If it helps you learn, fine, go for it but it’s not needed.
I think I'm mostly in agreement. Over-reliance on instruments is not that helpful, and can hinder developing feel, intuition and situational awareness. I just think it might be a helpful tool in training, to calibrate your "feel". I've had MANY buddies asking me during and after dives "How's my trim" "Am I flat now?" etc. - because they are wondering if their feel is accurate. Using feedback from a buddy is one way of doing this, and in some ways might be better, but to be able to check an indicator in the moment when you're wondering if you are in the trim you think you are, can be helpful to build the proprioception necessary.
The whole "you don't always need to be perfectly flat" is a strawman in many of these threads, as I think only novice DIR acolytes would think that is the ideal. All of the GUE divers and instructors I know stress control of trim, and that you should adjust trim based on your surroundings. But when you need to be parallel to your surroundings in a wreck or cave, it's important to develop the feel for the angle of your trim relative to a reference.
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