Halcyon Infinity System

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Hi there....newbie here.

When I ran this by an instructor up here he said that it appears as though it maybe difficult to get off in an emergency situation should the need arise.

You might ask the instructor to explain exactly what about it would make it appear that way.

-Mitch
 
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I am very new to BP/w. I have a build such that my backpacks tend to slide off my shoulders if I don't have a sternum strap. The same is true of my BP/w if I am hiking it a distance overland. My BP/w does not have a sternum strap and, as it happens, I don't need one since once I am horizontal in the water the weight is transferred off my shoulders and onto my back. Also, if I keep my hands out in front of me when diving the BP can't slide off, plus the change in position tightens up the rig a bit.

Sternum strap for hiking your BP to a dive site - possibly necessary or desirable.

Sternum strap for diving your BP - not necessary.

Also, others are right - cut off the straps with shears (which you should carry) if you need to get out faster than undoing the belt and wiggling out will permit (this is unlikely). I explain it to my buddy this way:

I don't have any quick release straps. If in doubt, take my shears (located there) and start cutting me out of the webbing. If I stop you, I don't need to be cut out.

Edit: Winnipeg, eh? MMC grad here.
 
I opted for simplicity and gave away recently. I do not need any more complications in my early stages of tec diving. When doffing gear in-water diving from a private boat it can be a struggle with my build (wide shoulders)...
 
Started out with a vest bcd and switched to the infinity,I have had mine for about 3 months now and will never go back
 
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Also, others are right - cut off the straps with shears (which you should carry) if you need to get out faster than undoing the belt and wiggling out will permit (this is unlikely). I explain it to my buddy this way:

I don't have any quick release straps. If in doubt, take my shears (located there) and start cutting me out of the webbing. If I stop you, I don't need to be cut out.

Edit: Winnipeg, eh? MMC grad here.

Miles Mac huh....River East here! Class of 80.

Thanks for all of the feedback. Actually my main concern wasn't the fact that there are no quick releases or having to slice my way out. I thought that it may be difficult to don and doff period. I have a bit of a struggle now with my vest style due to build I believe, large chest and shoulders and not much flexibility. That is the reason I was looking at this system in the first place, seems to allow for more mobility.

Te flexibility thing........my wife hates when I get people doing this. Can you touch your elbows together in front of you? Try it...... I can't...bout a 4 inch gap !! I havent met one person yet that cant no matter what the build type. I'm 5'10", 180 lbs with a 44 inch chest....crazy huh ?
 
I thought that it may be difficult to don and doff period. I have a bit of a struggle now with my vest style due to build I believe, large chest and shoulders and not much flexibility. That is the reason I was looking at this system in the first place, seems to allow for more mobility.

My BP became easier to don and remove and more stable on my body when I loosened off the shoulder straps (letting me get in and out more easily) and instead tightened the crotch strap so that it pulled my belt down a bit. The crotch strap now pulls the BP down on my shoulders, keeping it secure.

For me it is every bit as easy to get my arms through the shoulder straps of the BP as it was to use my BC. The BP is a bit more problematic (for me) when I am trying to thread the belt with thick gloves on. Releasing the belt is easy, even with gloves.
 
The cinch system does make it easier to get in and out of the harness, although you really have to have the tank totally supported on something to get it to release (which is a good thing, really, but makes it less useful for some of the situations where I wish mine were easier to get off, like trying to take it off by myself next to my car :) ). On the other hand, most of the problems with getting in and out of a harness are related to 1) shoulder straps adjusted too tight, and 2) a fully inflated wing leaving less space to get the arms through the loops.
 
The angle of the waist strap is the key to easily loosening the strap. If the strap is level when standing/ perpendicular to the plate, it will allow the strap to slide through. If on the other hand the waist straps are hanging down at an angle the system locks the strap.
 
The angle of the waist strap is the key to easily loosening the strap. If the strap is level when standing/ perpendicular to the plate, it will allow the strap to slide through. If on the other hand the waist straps are hanging down at an angle the system locks the strap.

This applies especially to the left side waist strap where the buckle and possibly knife makes the strap drop as well as roll or bend by the plate.

I found that I can squat down a bit and rest the left side waist strap on my thigh to avoid this. Squatting down also gives me better leverage to push on the shoulder strap to loosen it.

Henrik
 
donning and doffing the infinity system is a breeze, cinch makes it all possible even in emergency situation. go ahead and grab one if you are in doubt, try it first and I'm sure you will be amazed..
 

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