Halcyon ACB

[DomaNitrogen]

Release system,

i am thinking of buying Halycon i went and give it a shot i loved it but with a weight belt it seems like pain to put the belt and remove it. The ACB system is very $$$$$ and XSScuba weight pockets seems a good option but it the release seems very not efficient.

the Diverite TransWeight is the same as ACB..

I dont c any options

is there nothing in between

 

[halocline]

I wouldn't worry about the "release system" of the Xscuba pouches. The main thing is the capacity; if you don't need more weight than they can handle, they'll work fine. Getting rid of the weight simply involves pulling up the velcro flap and pulling the weight out; not much more complicated than pulling a ripcord. As suggested, you could mount them upside down, but I bet after a while the velcro might give out. They're cheap enough so you could just replace them at that point.

Oh yeah, I forgot to chime in on your first question. I think it's much more comfortable and less cluttered to keep some lead in small pouches than on a belt; one less buckle, one less piece of webbing around your waist. I keep the pouches in place with the D ring keeper. If you needed a lot of weight, say more than 12 lbs, it might be better to spread it out on a separate belt, but I'd still be tempted to fill up the small pouches and then thread a couple of weights right on the waist belt nearer the buckle. Bet there are LOTS of people who don't like that idea..

 

[gofermaster]

I have ACB pockets and they are nice, but expensive. You should be aware that the smaller pockets don't take the advertised weight. I've never been able to squeeze more than 4 pounds into one, while the larger pocket will take up to 10 pounds. If you go with ACBs also be aware there was a recent upgrade. Both styles slip onto the webbing, but the old style bolted to the backplate while the new style threads onto the belt at the back like a tri glide---much better.

 

[D_O_H]

I have ACB pockets and they are nice, but expensive. You should be aware that the smaller pockets don't take the advertised weight. I've never been able to squeeze more than 4 pounds into one, while the larger pocket will take up to 10 pounds. If you go with ACBs also be aware there was a recent upgrade. Both styles slip onto the webbing, but the old style bolted to the backplate while the new style threads onto the belt at the back like a tri glide---much better.

Has anyone used the DUI trim system with a BP/W? I hate a regular weight belt with a lot of weight on it (which is what I need to sink my gigantic self and a boatload of neoprene). I've used the DUI system for freediving and really liked it, just not sure how/whether it's going to work with my backplate.

Incidentally, my BP/W came with the ACB system, but I may be selling it (the ACB) for cheap if the DUI thing works. The ACB is nice, but it does take up a lot of space on the belt and doesn't hold enough lead for me (not sure which one mine is, but I'm unable to cram more than 7 lbs. of softweights into each side).

 

[scubasaurus]

Dir-Zone (german manufacturer) got nice weight pockets, to be attached to the bp...
http://www.remarks.de/oscommerce/product_info.php?cPath=53&products_id=234

 

[Hoosier]

Could you please explain more in plain english?
Even, I am not sure how much they ask for it....

Thanks in advance,

Dir-Zone (german manufacturer) got nice weight pockets, to be attached to the bp...
http://www.remarks.de/oscommerce/product_info.php?cPath=53&products_id=234

 

[Grajan]

Could you please explain more in plain english?
Even, I am not sure how much they ask for it....

Thanks in advance,

It's about $120 US and looks much like the similarily priced ACB.

 

[KOMPRESSOR]

I'm in the process of finding a new way with my drop-lead. I use a standard Halcyon Eclipse 40 single tank rig. With my thick neoprene drysuit I need some lead, about 7-8 kilos in the summer, and another 2 kilos extra with my winter underwear. As of now I have all my lead (8 kilos just now) in a regular weight belt underneath the web of my rig.

1. The weight of lead is killing my back.
2. There's no way I can drop any of it in an emergency.

A 2,5 kilo P-weight mounted in my back plate will take off some lead from the weight belt. I need some 5 kilos dropable lead. The only solutions as I see it is either get a new trilam suit and thereby avoid the need of dropables, or mount something like the ACB's in my web.

I need room for a battery cannister on my right side...

What should I do then, if the ACB's really su*k that much?

 

[Hoosier]

I think that is almost same price as Halcyon ones.

It's about $120 US and looks much like the similarily priced ACB.

 

[reworker7]

I'm in the process of finding a new way with my drop-lead. I use a standard Halcyon Eclipse 40 single tank rig. With my thick neoprene drysuit I need some lead, about 7-8 kilos in the summer, and another 2 kilos extra with my winter underwear. As of now I have all my lead (8 kilos just now) in a regular weight belt underneath the web of my rig.

1. The weight of lead is killing my back.
2. There's no way I can drop any of it in an emergency.

A 2,5 kilo P-weight mounted in my back plate will take off some lead from the weight belt. I need some 5 kilos dropable lead. The only solutions as I see it is either get a new trilam suit and thereby avoid the need of dropables, or mount something like the ACB's in my web.

I need room for a battery cannister on my right side...



What should I do then, if the ACB's really su*k that much?

Kompressor,

Like you I dive with a thick neoprene dry suit (Poseidon unisuit, 6.5mm), and also have a 40LB Halcyon Eclipse rig for single tank use. I tried the ACB 20 system and found that with hard weights it would not take the 4.5Kg or 10lbs of weight as stated. Using soft weights though it was no problem. Using the ACB system with my Helios light was another matter entirely; not the best for either ergonomics or practicality, as if you wanted to remove the canister for whatever reason, off must come the ACB first.

Together with the Helios and SS BP, I found that I needed 6KG in the ACB. To eliminate the ACB's I switched to a weighted STA and used trim weights on the tank bands. The trim weights were the ditchable type, so in an emergency I could ditch 5KG there and my canister light, now secured with a spare SS weight buckle. However, unless I had a flooded dry suit this shouldn't be necessary. A friend has an Agir-Brokk SS backplate 6mm thick and 5.1Kg. This would obviously take some weight from your belt, but like me you already have the Halcyon plate and using the P-weight almost takes you to 6Kg in any case.

Regards,

Charles